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wolves and bears in northern Spain (1 Viewer)

Steve Babbs

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In an attempt to repeat the success of the lynx thread has anyone tried looking for wolves and bears in Cordillera Cantabrica? I know there are meant to be about 2500 - 3000 wolves in the area and Naturetrek have a 95% success rate. Sadly bear numbers are a lot lower.

It certainly an area that I feel like visiting before too long.
 
I quite fancy trying for the wolves in Spain, although I have been told that they are not as ‘easy’ as the lynx. They must be pretty reliable for Naturetrek to do the tours. I suspect bears are much more difficult.

As I’ve mentioned in other threads, I’m going to Abruzzo (Italy) next month. This may be a more reliable place to see Brown Bear. Wolves are also seen from time to time. I will have more details later in the year.
 
I quite fancy trying for the wolves in Spain, although I have been told that they are not as ‘easy’ as the lynx. They must be pretty reliable for Naturetrek to do the tours. I suspect bears are much more difficult.

As I’ve mentioned in other threads, I’m going to Abruzzo (Italy) next month. This may be a more reliable place to see Brown Bear. Wolves are also seen from time to time. I will have more details later in the year.

I have to admit I'd forgotten about Abruzzo. I look forward to you letting us know how you did.
 
My middle daughter found and photgraphed fresh wolf faeces here in August

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We were rough camping at the time !!!!
 
My advice would be to concentrate heavily on Wolf in Spain - which seems to be the softest European option for it - and do Brown Bear either in the Abruzzo (which I considered until last year) or in Finland where the bear viewing industry is solid and highly effective - and you might just jam Wolverine.

John
 
In Finland there is a cosy but perhaps pricey option to see bear, wolf, lynx and wolverine. See mammalwatching.com

Totally different are bears and reputedly wolves scavenging rubbish bins in Brasov, Romania.
 
It'd be good to get the kind of 'tight gen' we got for the lynx. It's probably going to be a wider area but good view points, recommended places to stay etc.
 
Looking through the Nauretrek tours there's one to Transylania 'Bear, Lynx & Beaver in the Carpathian Mountians - they also mention wolves. If this was in the school holidays I'd go against my normal 'I wouldn't go on a tour' principle and leap on it like a shot, especially at £1095.
 
Looking through the Nauretrek tours there's one to Transylania 'Bear, Lynx & Beaver in the Carpathian Mountians - they also mention wolves. If this was in the school holidays I'd go against my normal 'I wouldn't go on a tour' principle and leap on it like a shot, especially at £1095.

Independently, Bear is a doddle in Finland, also doable in Estonia at a lesser cost. Beaver is easy across much of eastern Europe, no dosh outlay.

Lynx is never going to be easy I suppose - but reading the naturetrek tour it says "good opportunities of encountering bears and a fair chance of seeing Lynx", that likely translates to maybe a bear, almost certainly no Lynx ;)
 
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Totally different are bears and reputedly wolves scavenging rubbish bins in Brasov, Romania.

The bears used to be a doddle around (and in!) the bins about 5 years ago but there was death (of a tourist) and I think they have been discouraging the bears since; anyone know anymore of the current situation?

cheers, alan
 
Independently, Bear is a doddle in Finland, also doable in Estonia at a lesser cost. Beaver is easy across much of eastern Europe, no dosh outlay.

Lynx is never going to be easy I suppose - but reading the naturetrek tour it says "good opportunities of encountering bears and a fair chance of seeing Lynx", that likely translates to maybe a bear, almost certainly no Lynx ;)

Always keen to see a beaver but OML, as they say, it was the bear and lynx bit that was the attraction.
 
Looking through the Nauretrek tours there's one to Transylania 'Bear, Lynx & Beaver in the Carpathian Mountians - they also mention wolves. If this was in the school holidays I'd go against my normal 'I wouldn't go on a tour' principle and leap on it like a shot, especially at £1095.

Am just back from 1 week birding in Carpathians(South east Poland).Had memorable but brief view Brown Bear..Wolf tracks/faeces everywhere,no sightings.Managed Pine Marten/red + roe deer ,fox, eastern hedgehog, hare and wildboar.Tracked for bison whole day with no luck!!!
 
Am just back from 1 week birding in Carpathians(South east Poland).Had memorable but brief view Brown Bear..Wolf tracks/faeces everywhere,no sightings.Managed Pine Marten/red + roe deer ,fox, eastern hedgehog, hare and wildboar.Tracked for bison whole day with no luck!!!

If you get time it'd be great if you could start a new thread. I for one would be very interested in more details.

Cheers
 
I have to admit I'd forgotten about Abruzzo. I look forward to you letting us know how you did.

I arrived back from Italy yesterday without having seen either a Wolf or Brown Bear. I was very unlucky with the weather (rain and thick cloud/mist obscuring views of the valley) and a couple of other mishaps reduced my time at the watch points.

It seems Abruzzo is still a good place to see wild bears and wolves although an element of luck is needed!

Speaking to other bear watchers, up to four animals were seen in the previous week. On the day before I arrived it seems some of these bears tried to attack a horse next to the church where the main viewpoint is located (a newly erected fortified corral was evident). I’m unsure if the bears had been frightened off and this was why they were avoiding the area in the following week.

Despite a number of people looking, I’m only aware of one bear sighting over the five days I was in Abruzzo and this info was second hand. This animal had apparently been spotted on a scree slope in another part of the park.
I was told the bears are easy enough to spot when they are about, especially if they are hunting for food under stones etc. This is in contrast to the Iberian Lynx at Andujar which move relatively quickly, and soon disappear behind rocks and trees.

Wolves are more difficult to see in the park although sightings are often made from the bear watch points. I found fresh scat on a trail one afternoon.

On a positive note Abruzzo is a beautiful place, easily accessible from Rome. The scenery is stunning and there is plenty of other wildlife to see.

Over five days I saw Abruzzo Chamois, both Red and Roe Deer, Wild Boar and a Garden Dormouse, together with black Red Squirrels and several other mammal species. Fire Salamander was the reptile/amphibian highlight.

I will be writing a report for my website over the next few weeks for those that are interested.
 
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