AOU-NACC proposals 2014 (1 Viewer)

[l_raty]

Carduelinae

Zuccon et al. 2012 contradicts directly the proposal 2014-A-2b. It is not in direct conflict with [2014-A-1 + 2014-A-2a], but makes this move unnecessary (three-way split of a group that is already monophyletic).

Cardueline cox1 tree attached for comparison (data from BOLD and GenBank; usually 1 seq/species retained, sometimes 2 when two genetic groups apparent; 694bp alignment by hand; max likelihood, model GTR + Γ, consensus over 200 replicates). Support admittedly not huge, but pinus and spinus form the sister group of the American siskins (BS 82.5%), and the American goldfinches are basal to them--ie., congruent with Zuccon et al 2012.

 

[mb1848]

Zuccon et al 2012 does say "it seems likely that Nguembock et al.’s result
is due to their use for Carduelis spinus of sequences that in part
do not belong to this species."

 

[l_raty]

Zuccon et al 2012 does say "it seems likely that Nguembock et al.’s result is due to their use for Carduelis spinus of sequences that in part do not belong to this species."

Yes indeed, I saw it afterwards. It was already >1 year since I had read the paper and I didn't remember this. (And I always tend to go to the data first, in part because this is where problems are most frequent. Data are typically never checked by peer-reviewers.) But this and "a contamination" in the broad sense are equivalent--ie, their spinus sequences seem contaminated with non-spinus (probably Loxia) material. This doesn't necessarily imply a real, physical, contamination of a sample with the DNA of another one, though (eg., the name of one or more sequence(s) could also have been changed accidentally in a file, outside the lab, the end result would be the same).

 

[mb1848]

Laurent: Please keep focusing on the data and not looking at the politics, horse shit etc.
I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say I love looking at your DNA analyses, trees etc.

 

[Richard Klim]

Proposals 2014-A

Nate Swick, aba blog, 22 Jan 2014: 2013 AOU Check-list Committee Proposals, Part 1.

 

[Richard Klim]

Proposals 2014-B

www.aou.org/committees/nacc/proposals/pending.php

Proposals 2014-B (PDF)

• 2014-B-1: Split the Cuban Parrot (Amazona leucocephala) complex into multiple species
• 2014-B-2: Add Maguari Stork Ciconia maguari to the main list
• 2014-B-3: Add Lined Seedeater Sporophila lineola to the main list
• 2014-B-4: Transfer Azure Gallinule (Porphyrio flavirostris) from the main list to the Appendix
• 2014-B-5: Transfer Yellow-winged Cacique (Cacicus melanicterus) to Cassiculus
• 2014-B-6: Split Gymnopithys leucaspis into two species (SACC # 587)
• 2014-B-7: Split Pyrrhura roseifrons, lucianii, and amazonum from P. picta (SACC # 306, SACC # 403)
• 2014-B-8: Revise the linear sequence of species in the genus Saltator (SACC # 593)
• 2014-B-9: Revise the linear sequence of species in the genus Dendrocincla (SACC # 597)
• 2014-B-10: Revise the classification of Automolus and relatives (SACC # 601)
• 2014-B-11: Split Siberian Stonechat (Saxicola maurus) from Common Stonechat (S. torquatus)
• 2014-B-12: Revise the generic assignments of several introduced estrildids
• 2014-B-13: Eliminate Trogoninae (New World Trogons) as a subfamily of the Trogonidae
• 2014-B-14: Remove hyphens from English names of the "Black-Hawks" (SACC # 515)

 

[mb1848]

I like 2014-B-5 by Mr. Pennhallurick but Icterus diadematus is planche 482 not 483. Nitpicky I know!
http://biodiversitylibrary.org/item/109469#page/316/mode/1up .
483 is Gallus furcatus.

 

[Richard Klim]

Proposals 2014-B

Nate Swick, aba blog, 29 Apr 2014: 2014 AOU Check-list Proposals, Part 2.

 

[njlarsen]

I am curious to see if the first one will get a more favorable treatment this time around.

Niels

 

[antshrike69]

Given that I am off to Cayman Brac and Grand Cayman in a few weeks specifically for amazons, so am I!

 

[Richard Klim]

Proposals 2014-C

www.aou.org/committees/nacc/proposals/pending.php

Proposals 2014-C (PDF)

• 2014-C-1: Add Waved Albatross Phoebastria irrorata to the main list
• 2014-C-2: Change the type locality of Craveri's Murrelet
• 2014-C-3: Adopt a new classification for the Quail-Doves (Columbidae)
• 2014-C-4: Revise the taxonomy and linear sequence for species of Sporophila and Oryzoborus (SACC # 604, SACC # 605)
• 2014-C-5: Split Ninox japonica from Brown Hawk-Owl Ninox scutulata and adopt the English name Northern Boobook
• 2014-C-6: Add Common Chiffchaff Phylloscopus collybita to the main list
• 2014-C-7: Change the English name of Lonchura punctulata from Nutmeg Mannikin [] to Scaly-breasted Munia
• 2014-C-8: Split the Shy Albatross Thalassarche cauta into two or three species: (a) split cauta/steadi from salvini/eremita (SACC # 155); (b) split salvini from eremita (SACC # 255)
• 2014-C-9: Split Toxostoma palmeri from Curve-billed Thrasher T. curvirostre

 

[Richard Klim]

Proposal 2014-C-9

2014-C-9: Split Toxostoma palmeri from Curve-billed Thrasher T. curvirostre

• Toxostoma (curvirostre) curvirostre - 'Plateau Thrasher'
• Toxostoma (curvirostre) palmeri - 'Palmer's Thrasher'

I also propose synonymizing subspecies oberholseri and celsum with curvirostre, and synonymizing maculatum, insularum and occidentale with palmeri (Rojas-Soto 2003, Rojas-Soto et al. 2007).

If the split is adopted this time, is NACC likely to also formally endorse Robert Tweit's proposed synonymisations (given that AOU doesn't currently 'do' subspecies)...?

 

[Richard Klim]

Proposals 2014-C

Nate Swick, aba blog, 4 Jun 2014: 2014 AOU Check-list Changes, Part 3.

 

[bkrownd]

2014-C-7: Change the English name of Lonchura punctulata from Nutmeg Mannikin [] to Scaly-breasted Munia

If this happens I forsee many years of people entering nutmeg mannikins as "chestnut munias" if the familiar name "nutmeg mannikin" disappears from checklists.

 

[Richard Klim]

55th supplement?

Auk 131(3) (Jul 2014) has now been completed/published, but doesn't include the expected annual check-list supplement. Presumably publication of the 55th supplement has been deferred to the Oct 2014 issue...

[Or perhaps all 33 proposals for 2014 failed. ]

 

[Kratter]

Auk 131(3) (Jul 2014) has now been completed/published, but doesn't include the expected annual check-list supplement. Presumably publication of the 55th supplement has been deferred to the Oct 2014 issue...

[Or perhaps all 33 proposals for 2014 failed. ]

Richard et al.
With the new Auk format, deadlines were changed for submission, so our schedule was thrown of. Look for the supplement in the October issue of Auk.

Andy Kratter

 

[Mysticete]

Will this impact the Clements Checklist updates? IIRC, those are usually the end of summer, and incorporate the NACC/SACC decisions for the year.

 

[njlarsen]

I believe the ebird updates will be there within a month, with the official Clements spreadsheet to follow later.

Niels

 

[Snapdragyn]

So will the ebird updates be based on insider knowledge and contain the yet-unpublished changes from this year's AOU proposals, or will it be a round of updating the rest of the world but not the AOU area (pending the October Auk issue)?

 

[thomasdonegan]

With the new Auk format, deadlines were changed for submission, so our schedule was thrown of. Look for the supplement in the October issue of Auk. Andy Kratter

This update is most kind of you and appreciated. Thank you.