Baby S (2 Viewers)

[tehri]

... binocular doesn’t need food, no costs for vets etc.

However, it is well known now, some binoculars have serious skin problems, and require a vet' !! 😋

 

[Patudo]

My guess: Just selling NLs (or, for that, SFLs, UVHDs and MHGs) will not keep you in business for many more years.

Maybe. But Euro watch makers seem to be doing just fine (even though the advent of digital watches should have killed them off in your analysis), Euro luxury car makers don't seem to be doing too badly either. The high end binocular market (and I'd instinctively have to agree with Jan that the high end is very different to the $200 or even $500 categories) is more like those industries and products. I actually wonder if going down the path of "smart" gadgetry like the Visio is the right strategy, as the real masters of gadgetry and tech design and production are the Japanese and Americans. What Europe is really good at doing is making things seem sexy, stylish and desirable, and catering to the niche high end market with highly refined and sophisticated (and expensive) products. So long as they can keep doing that, and there's a market for their products, Leica et al will be in business. The niche, in terms of the wealthy to super-wealthy client, is getting bigger not smaller. That niche does not include most of us, but it's getting bigger.

 

[fazalmajid]

I can see a (rich) grandparent splashing out on these a present for a nature loving 9-year grandchild but for that money I would expect some longevity. A well made pair of binoculars can be usable for many decades. I can't see a grandchild wanting to use these when they are are 15 let alone 25.

I gave my keen birdwatcher nephew my EL SV 8.5x42 when I upgraded to the NL Pure and despite his young age (11) he was very appreciative. Seems like a better value proposition but I have to admit these baby Swaros look mighty cute, and that argument often wins the day.

 

[jan van daalen]

Coming Thursday I'll get my hands on them and will let you know.
##How do they performe?
##Are they made (100%) in Austria?
##Are they useable for addults?

Any more questions?

Jan

 

[Swedpat]

I am desperately waiting for a review! 🤓

 

[jan van daalen]

I am desperately waiting for a review! 🤓

Hi S,

You do know it is a bin for kids

 

[Swedpat]

Hi S,

You do know it is a bin for kids

What???!!! 😬
Does not matter. 7x28 is a good configuration. And if ER is enough, it makes a very nice binocular for backpacking and travel. 🙂

 

[jan van daalen]

What???!!! 😬
Does not matter. 7x28 is a good configuration. And if ER is enough, it makes a very nice binocular for backpacking and travel. 🙂

I feel the pressure........

 

[Ignatius]

.. 7x28 is a good configuration. And if ER is enough, it makes a very nice binocular for backpacking and travel. 🙂

Exactly. If it had diopter adjustment I#d already have put in an order. And let's face it - mint is the new black

 

[tehri]

Hi S,

You do know it is a bin for kids

And for info, the green ones have a 'mint' taste and the blue ones, 'cotton candy' taste.... Swarovski indicates that you can even lick them !!!! 😋

 

[Owlbarred]

And for info, the green ones have a 'mint' taste and the blue ones, 'cotton candy' taste.... Swarovski indicates that you can even lick them !!!! 😋

But all the green ones have veiling glare -- the blue ones have Leica lenses, are too heavy, and have excessive chromatic aberration.

 

[jan van daalen]

But all the green ones have veiling glare -- the blue ones have Leica lenses, are too heavy, and have excessive chromatic aberration.

........and me thinking, I am the first who tested them........

 

[Scott98]

at first this sounds like a great idea - 7x! And 7x with bigger aperture than the Curio. That's exactly what I like - could it replace my vintage 7x35 porros with modern glass? Right away I'm thinking - does it have the thumb grooves I dislike?? Question #1. No pics of the underside.

No diopter adjustment? Wow is all I can say. What are they thinking? When was that invented, like 1800's? So it's like a handicapped binocular you can give your kid? When I was a kid everybody in the family used the same 7x35's and I certainly didn't want any compromises for being a kid. I would avoid a "kid's" bino...it sounds like a term for a regular bino with defects.

The thumb groove thing bears monitoring though. Swaro got rid of it for the first time in decades with the NL Pures. If these don't have it maybe they finally waved the white flag on that unwelcome innovation. And I see regular strap lugs on these as well.

 

[jan van daalen]

OK, her are my findings.
First of all, as an optics purist I am extremely disappointed Swaro went this way.
Having said that, the Chinese did a hell of a job.
The view is crystal clear, the bin is built as a tank, it has the same weight and volume as the CL30 line (see pics CLoriginal, CLcurrent, Junior) and most important it is suited for addults. No blackouts or what so ever.
From Gijs I understood that he will compare the light transission when they will come available in May with the Bantam.
Personally I am sure sales will be 80% addults and 20% kids. So commercially Swaro will shoot themselves in the foot. This bin will be a competitor for the CL8x30 line.
BTW, weight is 498 gram and close focus is 4 meters instead of 250 gram and 2.5 meters as mentioned in the Benelux catalogue.

Jan

 

[Swedpat]

Hi Jan,

Thanks for pictures. You mean this binocular is made in China, and the optical class is good?
That is ok for me. The result is what matters.
Regarding the lack of right eye diopter adjustment this is a drawback only for people with different diopters for left and right eye when using the binocular without eyeglasses or contact lenses. So for me it's about if the eye relief is satisfactory for use with eyeglasses.
I am looking forward for more information about the optical performance and usable eye relief.

 

[jan van daalen]

Hi Jan,

Thanks for pictures. You mean this binocular is made in China, and the optical class is good?
That is ok for me. The result is what matters.
Regarding the lack of right eye diopter adjustment this is a drawback only for people with different diopters for left and right eye when using the binocular without eyeglasses or contact lenses. So for me it's about if the eye relief is satisfactory for use with eyeglasses.
I am looking forward for more information about the optical performance and usable eye relief.

Hi S,

I don't know how they managed it but normally I have 2 diopter clicks + but with this bin left and right was even sharp.
With and without eyeglasses I experienced the same FOV and no blackouts.
It is a really easy to use bin with absolute decent optics.
From close focus to max infinity you have to rotate the focusser for almost 1 turn. It won't go further.
The metal eyecups have 2 clicks.

Jan

 

[Scott98]

So it sounds like a Swarovski Terra? No thumb grooves, that's good IMO. I always leave my diopter at 0 anyways. I do like the colors. I'm sure I'd enjoy playing around with these.

 

[Risveden]

Chinese, No thanks. A CL 8x25 would be my choice if I’m going to buy a binocular for the kids.

 

[John A Roberts]

The 4 page Fact Sheet (brochure) for the My Junior is now available in English, German, French, Italian and Dutch versions at: My Service

And Fact Sheets for other products can be found by following the choices at: My Service


John

 

[ReinierB]

The thumb groove thing bears monitoring though. Swaro got rid of it for the first time in decades with the NL Pures. If these don't have it maybe they finally waved the white flag on that unwelcome innovation.

LOL, you really do dislike these thumb grooves?
I don't like them on my EL 12x50 either (the same with the EL 10x42), but on the SLC 8x42 they are exactly on the right position.