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Bird UK to id audio file (1 Viewer)
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lou salomon
the birdonist
probably a Jay.
Alexander Stöhr
Well-known member
Hello,
yes it might well be a Jay or a Squirrel, but it might well be a young Raccoon.
Please compare:
With the usual caveats and the regular and repetitive calls might be better for a bird or amphibian?
yes it might well be a Jay or a Squirrel, but it might well be a young Raccoon.
Please compare:
With the usual caveats and the regular and repetitive calls might be better for a bird or amphibian?
wheatearlp
Well-known member
Probably not in Derbyshire UK 🤔
Bewick
Connoisseur of WTL
Probably not but you never know... Mystery of banned raccoon dogs found dead near Derbyshire towns (Different species off course).
Picoides minor?
Different family, very distant relationship. Racoon Dog is one of the oldest extant dogs, younger only than the Bat-eared Fox and the Island Fox and Grey Fox. Closest relatives are the foxes.
Rotherbirder
Well-known member
As already mentioned, it's a Grey Squirrel Sciurus carolinensis. Our local population is very vocal at the moment.
RB
RB
As always, thanks for the appreciation, Butty.
Racoon and Racoon Dog were brought into the discussion by others, not me, so I thought it might be interesting to viewers, even if it doesn't bring us closer to a resolution of the OP's query.
My regular local birding spot, a couple of km from my house in the middle of a medium-sized city (pop, c. 350,000) - with a circumference less than 5km, and 145 bird species on my list so far - also has a small number of mammals, along with a variety of reptiles, and is a pretty good dragonfly spot, not bad for butterflies, and other insects.
We have had Tanuki (Racoon Dog) - which I am told used to be much commoner forty or fifty years ago - and (introduced, obviously) Racoon. (Both just a couple of times - I'm not claiming to see them every day.)
Here are photos of the two taken (at different times obviously) from very nearly the same point in my local spot. Just for fun. I wonder how many other members have seen these two species at the same spot?
Racoon and Racoon Dog were brought into the discussion by others, not me, so I thought it might be interesting to viewers, even if it doesn't bring us closer to a resolution of the OP's query.
My regular local birding spot, a couple of km from my house in the middle of a medium-sized city (pop, c. 350,000) - with a circumference less than 5km, and 145 bird species on my list so far - also has a small number of mammals, along with a variety of reptiles, and is a pretty good dragonfly spot, not bad for butterflies, and other insects.
We have had Tanuki (Racoon Dog) - which I am told used to be much commoner forty or fifty years ago - and (introduced, obviously) Racoon. (Both just a couple of times - I'm not claiming to see them every day.)
Here are photos of the two taken (at different times obviously) from very nearly the same point in my local spot. Just for fun. I wonder how many other members have seen these two species at the same spot?
Alexander Stöhr
Well-known member
Hello,
first thanks to Butty and Rotherbirder for ID/correction. I must admit the recording reminded me of Raccoon sounds I heard before and a quick search seemed to confirm this (yes I have seen Grey Squirrels before, but I didnt know their calls, and I have never heard a Red Squirrel making this sound before).
And thanks to MacNara too for your interesting comment. Regarding your question: I have seen Racoon Dog in Angermünde, Herzsprung and near Greiffenberg (all close by in NE-Germany) now and I saw quite a few Raccoons around Angermünde too.
I saw them in the night and I was surprised by their unique style of walking, different to other similar sized mammals (including Raccoons).
first thanks to Butty and Rotherbirder for ID/correction. I must admit the recording reminded me of Raccoon sounds I heard before and a quick search seemed to confirm this (yes I have seen Grey Squirrels before, but I didnt know their calls, and I have never heard a Red Squirrel making this sound before).
And thanks to MacNara too for your interesting comment. Regarding your question: I have seen Racoon Dog in Angermünde, Herzsprung and near Greiffenberg (all close by in NE-Germany) now and I saw quite a few Raccoons around Angermünde too.
I saw them in the night and I was surprised by their unique style of walking, different to other similar sized mammals (including Raccoons).
birdleg
Well-known member
Hi, Thank you all who replied ......Hehe definitely no raccoons here ......there was a squirrel about but I don't think it was making these sounds, (ps I've never heard squirrels make these sounds before)........unlikely a lesser spotted woodpecker ...........possibly a Jay but unsure as its sounds doesn't quite match the earlier sounds I heard of before I started recording it. ... Odd sound .
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lou salomon
the birdonist
can anybody please provide a link to a grey squirrel call that is even remotely similar to the sound presented here?
lou salomon
the birdonist
there are even more clear examples (of jay sounds). this is the first one I found on xeno and it has the rattling part at the beginning: XC833311 Eurasian Jay (Garrulus glandarius)
RichieTwitchy
YNWA
90Have we definitely ruled out Predator (aliena rapax)?
They can hang around in trees you know.
Have a listen...
They can hang around in trees you know.
Have a listen...
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