Buff-bellied Pipit (1 Viewer)

[Andrew]

To me many of the feathers look worn so it may have travelled a fair distance.

 

[CJW]

Tim,

CJW might be the first to say that, because as far as I can recall he did say it was all along.

Stephen.

:bounce:

 

[Jane Turner]

No white at all on the second outermost TF I see. That only leaves Rock doesn't it?... Presumably littoralis. and being female and small would account for the bill. It looks like a 1st year (contrast in the GCs).

Any sign of uniform growth bars in the tail..they do look quite fresh feathers?

 

[Edward woodwood]

but as Darrell says it still looks completely wrong

and I still can't get over the nature of the streaking......

 

[Jane Turner]

And the eye ring... I need to check Rockit again...but this really is unbroken.

 

[Edward woodwood]

excellent stuff Jane

very interesting.....

 

[Jane Turner]

To me many of the feathers look worn so it may have travelled a fair distance.

Actually it doesn't look that worn at all...just a little dishevelled. Look at the outer primaries... very very fresh feathers and the tail is incredibly tidy for a 1st year bird...

 

[Bluetail]

As Andrew says, many of the feathers look very abraded. I'm not a ringer and I'm probably being very silly, but could the bird have missed a moult for some reason? If so, could the paler, older feathers have become bleached, adding to the Meadow Pipit like look and leaving the darkers fathers looking more contrasting?

If this sounds a bit desperate, you're right!

Jason

 

[Edward woodwood]

just been pulled out of a net is the answer perhaps

plus birds could be worn and have been nowhere....

 

[Bluetail]

You beat me to it, Jane! I'll take your word for it, but some of those feathers still look tatty to me - the wing coverts for example. And are the inner primaries as fresh as the outer ones? If the tail feathers are still growing that would explain the short tail - which I assume was your reasoning. What chance of a delayed moult - and a faded bird?

Jason

 

[Edward woodwood]

as Jane mentioned it appears in good condition...just chucked about a bit!

 

[Bluetail]

Thanks, Tim. I was forgetting the possible effects of the net. Not a ringer, you see.

Jason

 

[Edward woodwood]

me neither Jason

far be it from me to cast nasturmiums bout ringers though.....

nasturmiums are a bit like nasturtiums (some pedant correct the spelling pls)

 

[Jane Turner]

Look at the tail on the bird. The pattern is assymetric, or at least appears so. The left-hand side shows that dusky distal web, typical of Rockit and nothing at all in the second outermost..... the right hand side appeas to show a gleaming clean white web and ther is just a hint that there might be a pale tip to T5...thought perhaps not the white you would hope to see.

 

[Edward woodwood]

right hand side is very white!

 

[Jane Turner]

Darrell, is there a photo or description showing the tail more clearly?

 

[Darrell Clegg]

I'll run the video again Jane, but the problem with videograbs is that 9 out of 10 frames are blurred because the bird is moving. if I have one I'll post it tonight when I get home.

Darrell

 

[Jane Turner]

Some of the tail feathers do look a little different in length, like it might be growing some, though its hard to tell without an even spread

 

[Jane Turner]

For reference here are the eye-rings of all the Rockits I have pic of.

 

[Jane Turner]

is it still about Darrell?