Hi everyone,
I couldn't decide as to where to post this thread as you'll soon understand.
I recently bought a pair of Vanguard Endeavor ED ii 10x42 binoculars. I have only had the Endeavor ED ii's for less than a week and in short they are great binoculars, even regardless of their great retail price. That being said they do have a few aspects which are an irritation to me.
It has always been apparent to me that binoculars are either a make or break piece of equipment, often regardless of the quality, brand or price.
I'll keep this relatively concise as possible, after all I'm seeking information as much as possible.
I've never had any headaches related to over use of binoculars or spotting scopes before, but during the past few days when I've been using the Endeavor ED ii's, I feel that I have a slight headache after an hour of using the binoculars. I think my headache my also be contributed to my mood, being annoyed at the Endeavor ED ii's and not enjoying myself as much as I hoped.
I'm sure it's predominately due to the fact that Endeavor ED ii's are still new and I'm somewhat getting use to their open/duel hinge design, but I feel they may be to compact for my hands. I have relatively small fingers with large palms and yet my fingers are bunched and cramped. It could be due to my interpupillary distance but even when I'm consciously spacing my fingers they end up touching.
That being said, my primary annoyance lies with the Endeavor ED ii's eye cups. In essence I believe they are too loose. I'm well aware that I'm fussy when it has to do with a piece of equipment that I love. Binoculars included.
Whether the eye cups are completely extended, at either of the two intermediate raised stages or completely collapsed, I believe they are too loose. I'm confident my pair of Endeavor ED ii's aren't damaged, it's just simply a design flaw. For instance, the protective rubber rain guard, although a nice inclusion in the overall package and something that I use a lot especially when the Endeavor ED ii's aren't in use cause the eye cups to rotate out slightly when the rain guards are being removed.
The Endeavor ED ii's eye-cups outward and inward motion is also different from the usual outward and inward rotation/movement. My understanding of the usual rotation being out, stop in the specified grove and either continue rotating outwards or inwards. The Endeavor ED ii's have what I can only describe as a hovering rotation. Maybe someone else who has used or owned a pair of Endeavor ED ii's or another Vanguard binocular can help me describe the rotation motion of the eye-cups.
I'm sure some of you may be thinking that I'm being pedantic, but it's this kind of issue that irritates me a lot. I have been trying to live with this issue and I'll continue to try and make myself like the Endeavor ED ii's, but as I've stated I do like the binoculars but I believe that through regular use the eye-cups may become even looser.
As I stated earlier, I'll try and keep this thread brief. At this point and prior to purchasing the Endeavor ED ii's I was comparing a number of binoculars. Obviously the Vanguard Endeavor ED ii, Nikon Monarch 7, Carl Zeiss Terra ED and the Bushnell Elite ED. All in 10x42 specification.
Each binocular that I listed have their strengths and weakness, but what are members opinions on the binoculars that I have listed? Yes the primary specification/s of a binocular, is the overall view/optical sweet spot (amongst other specifications and aspects) being paramount, but what are members opinions on the smaller, but extremely important aspects of binoculars. Case in point the eye-cups? I clearly prefer tight, sturdy eye-cups that do NOT move unnecessarily, except for the specified outward and inward twist. Another minor example that I like about the Nikon Monarch's I've handled is that lens covers and rain guard appear to grip and stay in place very well.
I'm sure most of you have deduced that I'm seriously contemplating returning the Endeavor ED ii's and buying another pair of binoculars.
At the moment I'm leaning towards the Bushnell Elite ED firstly then the Nikon Monarch 7. That being said I have also read reviews of the Bushnell Elite ED's eye-cups collapsing. Has anyone had the experience?
If it is believed that I should relocate this thread to another forum section please don't hesitate to ask.
My price range is from $500 to $600 Australian dollars. I'm not particular loyal to any brand, but I do heavily favour good design and build quality. The more reputable brands are favourable. So, should I consider the Bushnell Elite ED and the Nikon Monarch 7, or should I be looking, researching and considering other brands?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Regards.
I couldn't decide as to where to post this thread as you'll soon understand.
I recently bought a pair of Vanguard Endeavor ED ii 10x42 binoculars. I have only had the Endeavor ED ii's for less than a week and in short they are great binoculars, even regardless of their great retail price. That being said they do have a few aspects which are an irritation to me.
It has always been apparent to me that binoculars are either a make or break piece of equipment, often regardless of the quality, brand or price.
I'll keep this relatively concise as possible, after all I'm seeking information as much as possible.
I've never had any headaches related to over use of binoculars or spotting scopes before, but during the past few days when I've been using the Endeavor ED ii's, I feel that I have a slight headache after an hour of using the binoculars. I think my headache my also be contributed to my mood, being annoyed at the Endeavor ED ii's and not enjoying myself as much as I hoped.
I'm sure it's predominately due to the fact that Endeavor ED ii's are still new and I'm somewhat getting use to their open/duel hinge design, but I feel they may be to compact for my hands. I have relatively small fingers with large palms and yet my fingers are bunched and cramped. It could be due to my interpupillary distance but even when I'm consciously spacing my fingers they end up touching.
That being said, my primary annoyance lies with the Endeavor ED ii's eye cups. In essence I believe they are too loose. I'm well aware that I'm fussy when it has to do with a piece of equipment that I love. Binoculars included.
Whether the eye cups are completely extended, at either of the two intermediate raised stages or completely collapsed, I believe they are too loose. I'm confident my pair of Endeavor ED ii's aren't damaged, it's just simply a design flaw. For instance, the protective rubber rain guard, although a nice inclusion in the overall package and something that I use a lot especially when the Endeavor ED ii's aren't in use cause the eye cups to rotate out slightly when the rain guards are being removed.
The Endeavor ED ii's eye-cups outward and inward motion is also different from the usual outward and inward rotation/movement. My understanding of the usual rotation being out, stop in the specified grove and either continue rotating outwards or inwards. The Endeavor ED ii's have what I can only describe as a hovering rotation. Maybe someone else who has used or owned a pair of Endeavor ED ii's or another Vanguard binocular can help me describe the rotation motion of the eye-cups.
I'm sure some of you may be thinking that I'm being pedantic, but it's this kind of issue that irritates me a lot. I have been trying to live with this issue and I'll continue to try and make myself like the Endeavor ED ii's, but as I've stated I do like the binoculars but I believe that through regular use the eye-cups may become even looser.
As I stated earlier, I'll try and keep this thread brief. At this point and prior to purchasing the Endeavor ED ii's I was comparing a number of binoculars. Obviously the Vanguard Endeavor ED ii, Nikon Monarch 7, Carl Zeiss Terra ED and the Bushnell Elite ED. All in 10x42 specification.
Each binocular that I listed have their strengths and weakness, but what are members opinions on the binoculars that I have listed? Yes the primary specification/s of a binocular, is the overall view/optical sweet spot (amongst other specifications and aspects) being paramount, but what are members opinions on the smaller, but extremely important aspects of binoculars. Case in point the eye-cups? I clearly prefer tight, sturdy eye-cups that do NOT move unnecessarily, except for the specified outward and inward twist. Another minor example that I like about the Nikon Monarch's I've handled is that lens covers and rain guard appear to grip and stay in place very well.
I'm sure most of you have deduced that I'm seriously contemplating returning the Endeavor ED ii's and buying another pair of binoculars.
At the moment I'm leaning towards the Bushnell Elite ED firstly then the Nikon Monarch 7. That being said I have also read reviews of the Bushnell Elite ED's eye-cups collapsing. Has anyone had the experience?
If it is believed that I should relocate this thread to another forum section please don't hesitate to ask.
My price range is from $500 to $600 Australian dollars. I'm not particular loyal to any brand, but I do heavily favour good design and build quality. The more reputable brands are favourable. So, should I consider the Bushnell Elite ED and the Nikon Monarch 7, or should I be looking, researching and considering other brands?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Regards.
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