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[kaboku68]

Maybe a SONAS employee who is in charge of customer service for North America.

 

[Maljunulo]

Gijs;

I was commenting and speculating on the subject of the article in the OP, the apparent disagreement between the Swarovski family (father, daughter, uncle and brother/cousin(?)and their (presumably hired) CEO. I have no "evidence" other than the article.

I did not at any time address any of the things you spoke about, production, supply, demand, etc., and I really was not even addressing the optics division or its product lines.

I think I am a bit confused by your challenge.

Richard.

 

[Gijs van Ginkel]

Dear Richard,
It was not meant as a challenge, but I was curious about your sources (what do you mean by OP??), since what I know from the optics division is, that they are working very hard to produce instruments, and to develop new ones. The problem with the management, if one could call it a problem, is that the owners of the company as a whole with so many family members has rather expanded over the decades and during the years there were quite a few disagreements/challenges/conflicts in that large crowd of family owners about the course of the company (and perhaps also about the conduct of some). For the company as a whole it must be quite a task to keep so many different activities and opinions under one roof.
Gijs van Ginkel

 

[edwincjones]

With my time left, I will enjoy what is left of Western Civilization; no more glass from the far east for me.

Andy W.

the world is now different and we must adjust
but we still vote with our spending for one to survive, and the others to fail

edj

 

[Stanbo]

With my time left, I will enjoy what is left of Western Civilization; no more glass from the far east for me.

Andy

Unstabilised binoculars are of no use to me. Please can you tell me where l can find western made stabilised binoculars?
Stan

 

[jan van daalen]

Unstabilised binoculars are of no use to me. Please can you tell me where l can find western made stabilised binoculars?
Stan

Well Stan, what about the Zeiss 20x60?

Jan

 

[sidpost]

Dear Richard,
It was not meant as a challenge, but I was curious about your sources (what do you mean by OP??), since what I know from the optics division is, that they are working very hard to produce instruments, and to develop new ones. The problem with the management, if one could call it a problem, is that the owners of the company as a whole with so many family members has rather expanded over the decades and during the years there were quite a few disagreements/challenges/conflicts in that large crowd of family owners about the course of the company (and perhaps also about the conduct of some). For the company as a whole it must be quite a task to keep so many different activities and opinions under one roof.
Gijs van Ginkel

Yes, a classic problem with inheritance.

I see it a lot with farms. The children go off to college to pursue the trendy STEM (Science-Technology-Engineering-Math) degrees only to later inherit the land. Then the children squabble over it. The next generation makes it significantly worse. 4 generations later, one farm had 47 owners with no connection to farming or the land and majority rule meant accomplishing anything took a SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EFFORT.

At least with a family-owned conglomerate, there is a chance to split it and let family members choose which part they want to be associated with. Aren't ALDI and LIDL (or is it Aldi North and Aldi South?), and Puma and Addidas, examples of this general trend?

 

[Maljunulo]

In the interest of not prolonging this, I have decided to not comment further.

 

[tenex]

(what do you mean by OP??)

Hi Gijs, that's just Original Post (or Poster) of the thread, a common abbreviation on forums.

 

[CSG]

Well Stan, what about the Zeiss 20x60?

Jan

A mere $9k USD. I've made due with Canon's reasonably good 10x30 IS for some years but I'm not as big a fan of Japanese optics as European (as my gear list might indicate).

 

[kaboku68]

A mere $9k USD. I've made due with Canon's reasonably good 10x30 IS for some years but I'm not as big a fan of Japanese optics as European (as my gear list might indicate).

The new IS Sig Sauers are supposed to be made in the United States and are said to compete with the very best. Sig has the money, marketing and the engineers to do this. They will be available this year(2021).

 

[jgraider]

Sig doesn't make anything, like most today.

 

[kaboku68]

Their new internally stablized binoculars are made in the same assembly line as the 2400ABS. https://www.sigsauer.com/kilo2400abs.html
They are presently not yet available. The Rokslide Podcast on the SigSauer Skunkworks trip sitka blacktail hunting covered them in depth. https://www.sigsauer.com/zulu6-16x42-mm.html

 

[John A Roberts]

Hi K68,

The link to the Kilo 2400 ABS monocular rangefinder states that it is 'Assembled In The USA', see the attached screen grab
The implication being that it is mainly - and most likely solely - assembled from overseas manufactured components and modules

Clearly 'Assembled In The USA' ≠ 'Made In The USA'
And presumedly the situation will be the same with the IS binoculars



John

 

[PeterPS]

The new IS Sig Sauers are supposed to be made in the United States and are said to compete with the very best. Sig has the money, marketing and the engineers to do this. They will be available this year(2021).

As has been discussed on another thread, see for example:
https://www.birdforum.net/threads/new-apc-42-stabilized.395503/page-4#post-4116989
Sig Sauer 42mm IS binos are rather similar to Kite 42mm IS binos and both appear to be Kamakura clones.

 

[dries1]

the world is now different and we must adjust
but we still vote with our spending for one to survive, and the others to fail

edj

I should clarify, I was not including Japan in my previous statement.

Andy W.