Thanks, Paul.It is not of course. Someone got/gave some terrible advice
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Sequential colonization of oceanic archipelagos led to a species-level radiation in the common chaffinch complex (Aves: Fringilla coelebs)
Oceanic archipelagos are excellent systems for studying speciation, yet inference of evolutionary process requires that the colonization history of is…www.sciencedirect.com
Read it, it is in open access 😉Yes!
Can you summarise their recommendations?
The words "open access" are in orange and not an active link on my screen.
We concur with previous studies on this system (Marshall and Baker, 1999; Suárez et al., 2009, Rodrigues et al., 2014, Illera et al., 2016, Perktaş et al., 2017, Clement, 2018), on the need for a taxonomic revision of this group, and based on their and our results, we propose that the common chaffinch be divided into five different species, corresponding to Eurasia (Fringilla coelebs), North Africa (Fringilla spodiogenys/africana), Azores (Fringilla moreletti), Madeira (Fringilla maderensis) and the Canary Islands (Fringilla canariensis).
The map in the paper does not show the full extent of the North Africa distribution, but BirdLife Datazone map seems to account for africana and spodiogenys extending into NW Libya, as per IOC 11.2 sspp distributions. Now harterti (Svensson 2015) occurs disjunctly in NE Libya, but which ssp occurs disjunctly in Egypt? Is it syriaca? IOC 11.2 makes no mention of Egypt.I have the paper 😏
My bad, I deleted the pics from the book you send me. I'm also a dumbassHas anyone heard of any research published around the placing of the Ankober Serin?
It's currently placed in Crithagra but in "The Largest Avian Radiation" it is Linaria ankoberensis in the finch phylogeny.
No mention is made of any work published or unpublished in the book.
This possible relationship has been hinted at before.
John Ash who described the species (Ibis vol.121, No.1, 1979) describes the bill as "Linnet-like", and the habit of a flock rising in a compact group, circling round high in buoyant flight before returning to feed. In this respect recalling linnets and redpolls rather than the Crithagra species (tristriatus & striolatus) they share their habitat with.
Ash compares this with the similar behaviour of menachensis of Arabia.
His conclusion based on behavioural classification (Nicolai, J. 1960. Verhaltensstudien an einigen afrikanischen under paläarktischen Girlitzen. Zool. Jb. Syst. 87 : 317-362) was that they differed from the subgenus Ochrospiza and instead should be placed in Serinus (sensu stricto)
So perhaps there are 2 current Crithagra species whose relationships lie elsewhere.
Indeed! 😁My bad, I deleted the pics from the book you send me. I'm also a dumbass
I never paid attention to this detail the first timeI should still have it in sent items and I'll resend it.
Easily missed and as far as I can tell not mentioned anywhere in the text.I never paid attention to this detail the first time
Nobody can answer his request because the placement of ankoberensis within Linaria intrigues me a lot ?Has anyone heard of any research published around the placing of the Ankober Serin?
It's currently placed in Crithagra but in "The Largest Avian Radiation" it is Linaria ankoberensis in the finch phylogeny.
No mention is made of any work published or unpublished in the book.
This possible relationship has been hinted at before.
John Ash who described the species (Ibis vol.121, No.1, 1979) describes the bill as "Linnet-like", and the habit of a flock rising in a compact group, circling round high in buoyant flight before returning to feed. In this respect recalling linnets and redpolls rather than the Crithagra species (tristriatus & striolatus) they share their habitat which tend to head for cover when flushed.
Ash compares this with the similar behaviour of menachensis of Arabia.
His conclusion based on behavioural classification (Nicolai, J. 1960. Verhaltensstudien an einigen afrikanischen under paläarktischen Girlitzen. Zool. Jb. Syst. 87 : 317-362) was that they differed from the subgenus Ochrospiza and instead should be placed in Serinus (sensu stricto).
So perhaps there are 2 current Crithagra species whose relationships lie elsewhere.