Goa, India - Pipit identification (2 Viewers)

[zanderkay]

Hi. Having trouble figuring out what pipit this is. Have narrowed it down to either paddyfield or Richard's pipit. Any help would be much appreciated.

 

[zanderkay]

Sorry not sure if those pictures are clear. Sending some more.

 

[zanderkay]

One of the back in case that's useful

 

[bhutjoe]

Hi, I am answering in large part to bump it up and to learn, but in my inexpert opinion it is Paddyfields, based on the hind toe not being extraordinarily long and that the stripes on the back merge, both I believe are marks of Paddyfield. But as I mentioned I am struggling to id the two where I often bird, where paddyfield is common and Richard's is unusual. I hope my bumping your post up results in one or more of the experts having an opportunity to look at your photos.
all the best

 

[Valéry Schollaert]

Not a Richard's with dark lores ; the Paddyfield is very common in Goa and India in general. Just a question : how did you exclude Tawny Pipit?

 

[zanderkay]

Hi, I am answering in large part to bump it up and to learn, but in my inexpert opinion it is Paddyfields, based on the hind toe not being extraordinarily long and that the stripes on the back merge, both I believe are marks of Paddyfield. But as I mentioned I am struggling to id the two where I often bird, where paddyfield is common and Richard's is unusual. I hope my bumping your post up results in one or more of the experts having an opportunity to look at your photos.
all the best

Hi. Thanks. I too thought the same at first. My only reason for considering Richard's was that I have seen paddyfield before, and this one seemed larger with a longer tail.

 

[zanderkay]

Not a Richard's with dark lores ; the Paddyfield is very common in Goa and India in general. Just a question : how did you exclude Tawny Pipit?

I checked ebird map distribution and based on that felt that tawny pipit was not likely.

 

[zanderkay]

Do u think tawny pipit is a possibility because of the dark lores?

 

[Valéry Schollaert]

Do u think tawny pipit is a possibility because of the dark lores?

No, it is a Paddyfield Pipit IMO, but I wondered why you excluded Tawny. I've seen plenty of Tawny in North Africa and Europe, but never in India although I see many records from other people, so I'm interested to understand why I overlook them or if I'm simply not lucky with this species.