Gull sp. Kent, U.k. (1 Viewer)

[magpiemick]

Hello all,

Could all you experts please take a look at this bird, your thoughts are welcomed ..

Thanks

Mick ..

 

[BIRDseeN]

I'm far from a Gull expert, but can you rule out juv Great Black-backed before moving on to other species?

 

[JHDraytonbassettpits]

Gull

Hello all,

Could all you experts please take a look at this bird, your thoughts are welcomed ..

Thanks

Mick ..

I'm not a Gull specialist either, bill not substantial enough for juv Great Blacked Gull, I would say juv Herring Gull, with a paler head than usual.

Regards, John

 

[KenM]

I believe this to be a 1st Winter YLG, a contrasty white head, long legged, with suggestion of a ''faint window'' on the inner hand (unlike graellsii), all black bill with a pronounced gony. Compare Images of 1st Winter YLG taken last week lake Geneva.

Cheers

 

[phil baber]

I'm thinking 1cyr YL Gull also.

 

[Cristian Mihai]

1cy YLG, August 25th, Black Sea coast (Romania)

 

[Brian Stretch]

It is a 1cy Yellow-legged Gull. Note the mantle has already been replaced with second generation feathers.

A Herring Gull is unlikely to look as advanced by early September.

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[magpiemick]

I had settled for YLG after ruling out the possibility of Caspian, with that tail pattern ..

Then a more experience observer said it was Argentatus !!
Due mainly to the greater covert pattern ...

So then just needed some more people to view the bird ..

Regards

Mick ..

 

[lou salomon]

hi mick,

i didn't post here because for me the ID as YLG seemed settled and i agree on the ID;
GC-pattern indeed looks quite herring gull like but some michs do show it. especially the not diffuse/not dark outer GCs look similar to those of argentatus. but we don't see the outermost ones which could well be darker. and GC pattern is one of the more variable characters. what also resembles a bit with HG is the scaled scap pattern.

still, there are too many pro michahellis features: tail pattern is typical, inner primary pattern (venetian blind, not all pale like in most HGs), whitish head with dark eye smudge, long legs and, most important: it has some 2nd generation coverts which (almost) excludes any of the northern taxa like HG.

best,

 

[magpiemick]

Thanks Lou and everyone else ..

It's settled YLG ...