Help with identification (1 Viewer)

[Rbterrier]

Hi,

Can anybody help to identify these two birds please. Taken in the Yorkshire Dales. Apologies about the quality of the second one.

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Hello,
welcome to birdforum!
First is a Meadow Pipit, Only a few passerines have long tertials, that cover the entire wing. Of those, Pipits are the ones with greyish/brownish back and spots/stripes on the body.

Second is a male Northern Wheater. Please note unique colouration, including black face mask

 

[delia todd]

Hi Rbterrier and a warm welcome to you from all the Staff and Moderators.

I'm sure you will enjoy it here and I look forward to hearing your news.

 

[Rbterrier]

Hello,
welcome to birdforum!
First is a Meadow Pipit, Only a few passerines have long tertials, that cover the entire wing. Of those, Pipits are the ones with greyish/brownish back and spots/stripes on the body.

Second is a male Northern Wheater. Please note unique colouration, including black face mask

Thank you!

 

[njlarsen]

For the first one: why not tree pipit for the bold stripes on the forward underside and narrow stripes at the rear flanks?
Niels

 

[kuzeycem]

For the first one: why not tree pipit for the bold stripes on the forward underside and narrow stripes at the rear flanks?
Niels

Bil too thin, no pink base, flank streaking too bold.

 

[Butty]

The flank-streaking feature is useless - and this is a great example of why.

 

[kuzeycem]

The flank-streaking feature is useless - and this is a great example of why.

Any proof to that claim? The bird here shows equally thick streaking on whole underparts so I'm not seeing how this is an example?

 

[THE_FERN]

Bit of a black and white wing bar/shoulder (favours tree pipit). But I'm unsure

 

[KC Foggin]

Lovely images of this Pipit and Fieldfare and welcome aboard

 

[ClarkWGriswold]

Welcome to BirdForum.

Rich

 

[Butty]

Any proof to that claim?

Numerous threads on here. I've raised it several times in the past and only remember one occasion when someone demurred - and provided an explanation which made no sense to me.

I'm not seeing how this is an example?

Two people have used it on the same bird in the same photo and come to opposite conclusions.