Herring gull?? (1 Viewer)

[Michał Jaro]

The plumage on upperwing and mantle suggests a herring gull 2nd summer to me - is this the correct identification? (August, Poland Podhale).

 

[lou salomon]

second summer would mean 3cy in august, Michal (even HG appears mostly adult grey at that time). However, this bird is a 1cy, probably even juvenile, and it is a Herring Gull allright, maybe with some Caspian genes since its underwings are unusually pale.

 

[Michał Jaro]

second summer would mean 3cy in august, Michal

ooops , yes of course ...
Thanks, a lot. I'm glad that among all these Caspian ones, I finally "hunted" something else
Although probably with a pinch of Caspian

 

[smiths]

What is wrong for a pure, juvenile Caspian gull here?

 

[lou salomon]

its window. but in such a side view inner webs could be hidden producing the effect of the all pale inner primaries. the strong subterminal dark blobs in those inner primaries also led me towards HG, they can be present in Caspian but are more conspicous in HG, especially when contrasting with all pale inner primaries. However, I might reconsider the ID since the pale belly and underwings would be exceptional for a pure HG.