HermitIbis
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Hi Ricardo,
I am still struggling with the basics myself, but will gladly try to help.
Just back from a walk of 1.5 hrs, which included 26 new recordings (all TE). As I said above, the MP330 allows to take 99 recordings. This is quite a lot. Both the MP330 and the headphone are connected to the micro trio via a dual adaptor. - When there are NO bats (yet), I often use the FD mode. It will alarm me if a bat appears on the scenery. But FD is noisy (hiss) and yesterday it was irritating to get too many false alarms (living in a city has downsides - industrial noise, even late at night). HD is more pleasant to listen to. Yet most of the time I am in TE mode, in particular if there are bats. If I notice one, I just have to press the center button, and the (temporary) recording of circa 1s full-spectrum sound is made. [If in FD, you have to press another button first, to get TE mode; it takes 1-2 seconds more.]
If the recording is OK (it can be checked by listening to the time-expanded 10 seconds), I'll start the MP330 (start-stop button) and replay the recording from the temporary memory. After the ten seconds, I press the MP330 button again, the recording is now stored on the MP330. Another press on the center button of the Ciel (3 seconds) empties the tempory memory. This sounds complicated, but quickly becomes routine. So you can make about two recordings per minute, if you really have to. No guarantee that you'll catch every single bat, but it gives you a fair chance to record bats for later PC analysis.
Maybe someone who owns the SSF Bat2 can weigh in here. My impression is that I am not missing much in TE mode. My thumb is at the dial wheel, and one short movement brings me from 37 kHz to 77 kHZ. Pressing the "peak" button of the SSF Bat2 costs time, but no doubt the button is useful. The device has to find the best frequency - else you couldn't record the sound in the first place. The advantage of the micro trio is that by just pressing one button you get a full-spectrum recording. One push of a button instead of two. And the result has a better quality than FD sound.
More about some problems which I have with the micro trio in another post.
I am still struggling with the basics myself, but will gladly try to help.
The micro trio seems the best option but I have the following doubts that I can not resolve reading the manual.
- Recordings can be made once at a time using the internal memory on HD or TE. So only one small recording (1s) can be taken home for analyzing which seems a bad thing. It seems it is possible to record more using a digital recorder. If using TE, can you record as long as you want? Or that is only possible with HD? Can you record while listening?
Just back from a walk of 1.5 hrs, which included 26 new recordings (all TE). As I said above, the MP330 allows to take 99 recordings. This is quite a lot. Both the MP330 and the headphone are connected to the micro trio via a dual adaptor. - When there are NO bats (yet), I often use the FD mode. It will alarm me if a bat appears on the scenery. But FD is noisy (hiss) and yesterday it was irritating to get too many false alarms (living in a city has downsides - industrial noise, even late at night). HD is more pleasant to listen to. Yet most of the time I am in TE mode, in particular if there are bats. If I notice one, I just have to press the center button, and the (temporary) recording of circa 1s full-spectrum sound is made. [If in FD, you have to press another button first, to get TE mode; it takes 1-2 seconds more.]
If the recording is OK (it can be checked by listening to the time-expanded 10 seconds), I'll start the MP330 (start-stop button) and replay the recording from the temporary memory. After the ten seconds, I press the MP330 button again, the recording is now stored on the MP330. Another press on the center button of the Ciel (3 seconds) empties the tempory memory. This sounds complicated, but quickly becomes routine. So you can make about two recordings per minute, if you really have to. No guarantee that you'll catch every single bat, but it gives you a fair chance to record bats for later PC analysis.
The SSF Bat 2 has a great thing that it tells you the peak frequency so you can automatically change to it to hear it. Can you do something similar using the micro Trio from Ciel?
Maybe someone who owns the SSF Bat2 can weigh in here. My impression is that I am not missing much in TE mode. My thumb is at the dial wheel, and one short movement brings me from 37 kHz to 77 kHZ. Pressing the "peak" button of the SSF Bat2 costs time, but no doubt the button is useful. The device has to find the best frequency - else you couldn't record the sound in the first place. The advantage of the micro trio is that by just pressing one button you get a full-spectrum recording. One push of a button instead of two. And the result has a better quality than FD sound.
More about some problems which I have with the micro trio in another post.