Michael Frankis
conehead
Agree with Stephen, Meadow Pipit
Michael
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Jane Turner
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Oh dear.. my first reaction was thats a much better Tree pip than CJW's I'll now look at it properly
Jane Turner
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Negligible flank streaks, contrast between buff washed throat and white belly - not much mantle straking.. Can't see the bill, but its got Tripity face too. Thats where I'd put my money. Don't suppose it called like a 1second burst of Savis Warbler did it?
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Ruby
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Have to say that these Pipits etc leave me completely baffled....
I do appreciate that it's probably easier to id if you can see the way that they act or maybe hear them sing etc etc, but even that's not much help to me, as I'm too inexperienced to recognise one from another anyway...
On the same day, I saw another bird that was posing nicely, beautifully lit only about 15 feet away and did look very similar to this one (to my eyes at least..) I was mentally re-running many of the id tips that I'd gleaned from BF regarding how to tell one Pipit from another. When the bird flew, it was a Skylark!! Doh!!
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I do appreciate that it's probably easier to id if you can see the way that they act or maybe hear them sing etc etc, but even that's not much help to me, as I'm too inexperienced to recognise one from another anyway...
On the same day, I saw another bird that was posing nicely, beautifully lit only about 15 feet away and did look very similar to this one (to my eyes at least..) I was mentally re-running many of the id tips that I'd gleaned from BF regarding how to tell one Pipit from another. When the bird flew, it was a Skylark!! Doh!!
There's only one solution..... B
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Only just seen this - agree with Jane, although I'd like to have heard it call.
Stephen Dunstan
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Jane,
After the last round of Tree vs Meadow debate over CJW's bird you may be right, I haven't seen a Tree Pipit properly for a couple of years and was thinking in terms of Rock / Water / Meadow. Let's see what everyone else says.
Stephen.
After the last round of Tree vs Meadow debate over CJW's bird you may be right, I haven't seen a Tree Pipit properly for a couple of years and was thinking in terms of Rock / Water / Meadow. Let's see what everyone else says.
Stephen.
Michael Frankis
conehead
Sorry, yes, could well be Tree Pipit . . . too early in the year for me to be thinking of them, but Surrey's a looooong way south
Michael
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Jane Turner
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They are up the West coast already!
Stephen Dunstan
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Yes Jane, but that can be of limited use when they are 100 feet up!
Michael Frankis
conehead
You're 120 miles south of me! - and birds also move north a good week to two weeks earlier up the warmer west coast, than they do up the east coast (even within Northumbs, a lot of the summer visitors arrive in the high inland valleys some time before they reach the coastal strip)Jane Turner said:
The North Sea is still only 7°C this time of year, and it keeps the land to about the same, when the west is regularly getting 15°C.
Michael
Jane Turner
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Stephen Dunstan said:
I still can't make CJW's into a Tripit... but since it called.....???
Jane Turner
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Stephen Dunstan said:
I usually fail to see 80% of my tree pipits!
Jane Turner
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Its not like the old days when you could mix up the slides..... but I'd have bet a grand on that bird not being a tripit on the photo.
Ruby
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Hi All,
I was having a bit of a read-up about the knotty subject of Pipits and what appears to be a good id point of Tree Pipits compared to Meadow Pipit is the long hind claw.
This is another pic of the pesky bird in question, which looks to me to have a (very) long hind claw..... I guess that doesn't rule out Skylark either??
I was having a bit of a read-up about the knotty subject of Pipits and what appears to be a good id point of Tree Pipits compared to Meadow Pipit is the long hind claw.
This is another pic of the pesky bird in question, which looks to me to have a (very) long hind claw..... I guess that doesn't rule out Skylark either??
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Jane Turner
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Where did the flank streaks reappear from?
Jane Turner
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I'm in a hotel room looking at a tiny laptop screen.... but this has to be a different bird! The contrast between the upper breast buff wash and lower white belly has gone, the head pattern has changed and the flanks now have huge streaks..... if its really the same bird then I'm worried! First we have CJW's Tripit which looks nothing like one, now we have a Mipit that is impressionist... or is a Tript that can turn into a Mipit...
Ruby
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Jane Turner said:
Hmmmmmm!! I see what you mean.....
I took a series of 6 shots of Pipitty looking things in the same spot and at a quick glance they all looked much the same....
However.... upon further examination, I see that birds 1-5 all look alike and the pics were all taken within 30 secs of each other. Pic #6 (which was the first one on this thread) was actually taken 2 mins later and certainly does appear to be a different bird.....
Now I come to think about, I seem to recall that there were 2 birds kinda following one another about, and I reckon that I've probably got shots of them both here....
Sorry for the confusion.....
So what do we think bird #2 might be??
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