Pipit ID, Iran, Tehran on March 30,2023 (1 Viewer)

[Alirezabirder]

Hi, please help me to identify this pipit. Can it be Long-billed pipit?

 

[kuzeycem]

Tawny. Long-billed would have diffuse centers to median coverts.

 

[Alirezabirder]

Tawny. Long-billed would have diffuse centers to median coverts.

thank you. would you please explain more? why it doesn't have breast markings if it is tawny?

 

[kuzeycem]

Adult Tawny normally don't have breast markings.

 

[Grahame Walbridge]

Clearly an adult Tawny.

In addition to the median covert feature there are other clues, namely 1) the short, rather broad supercilium vs narrow, long and tapering in LBP, 2) the combination of dark moustachial and malar + distinct submoustachial stripes vs weak or absent moustachials and malars=less well-defined submoustachials in LBP, 3) whitish underparts vs more saturated, cinnamon buff underparts in LBP and 4) white outer tail feather vs buff or grey-toned in LBP.

Structurally, Long-billed is bulkier, longer-billed and longer, fuller-tailed than Tawny with shorter legs giving the bird a subtly different jizz.

Grahame

 

[Ratal]

Clearly an adult Tawny.

In addition to the median covert feature there are other clues, namely 1) the short, rather broad supercilium vs narrow, long and tapering in LBP, 2) the combination of dark moustachial and malar + distinct submoustachial stripes vs weak or absent moustachials and malars=less well-defined submoustachials in LBP, 3) whitish underparts vs more saturated, cinnamon buff underparts in LBP and 4) white outer tail feather vs buff or grey-toned in LBP.

Structurally, Long-billed is bulkier, longer-billed and longer, fuller-tailed than Tawny with shorter legs giving the bird a subtly different jizz.

Grahame

100% agreed. Nothing more can be added!

 

[Alirezabirder]

Adult Tawny normally don't have breast markings.

thank you.

 

[Alirezabirder]

Clearly an adult Tawny.

In addition to the median covert feature there are other clues, namely 1) the short, rather broad supercilium vs narrow, long and tapering in LBP, 2) the combination of dark moustachial and malar + distinct submoustachial stripes vs weak or absent moustachials and malars=less well-defined submoustachials in LBP, 3) whitish underparts vs more saturated, cinnamon buff underparts in LBP and 4) white outer tail feather vs buff or grey-toned in LBP.

Structurally, Long-billed is bulkier, longer-billed and longer, fuller-tailed than Tawny with shorter legs giving the bird a subtly different jizz.

Grahame

thanks a lot.