Pratincole ID help (Chobe River, Botswana) (1 Viewer)

[Cobalt]

Hi everyone. Could I please get an ID on these pratincoles? Saw them on the Chobe River in Botswana a few years ago in October on different days. I’m trying to distinguish between black-winged and collared pratincoles. These could be both or either one!


^ This individual was from the first day. I'm thinking it could be a Collared Pratincole due to having more red on the bill and the streamers appear longer than the wing feathers from what I can gather.



^ This image( two shots of the same individual) from the second day looks more like a Black-winged pratincole to me because the wing feathers look longer and the bill doesn't have as much red.

I could be wrong! Any help would be appreciated thank you.

 

[Butty]

Flush them.

 

[THE_FERN]

There both look like collared to me. The apparent difference in red is just due to viewing angle. Back is not dark, red extensive, streamers long

 

[Cobalt]

There both look like collared to me. The apparent difference in red is just due to viewing angle. Back is not dark, red extensive, streamers long

Thank you that’s very helpful!

 

[Andy Adcock]

There both look like collared to me. The apparent difference in red is just due to viewing angle. Back is not dark, red extensive, streamers long

Is there a resident population, Oct must be a bit early for Collared to be in Sub-Saharan Africa?

 

[THE_FERN]

Is there a resident population, Oct must be a bit early for Collared to be in Sub-Saharan Africa?

Sasol map suggests yes

 

[Butty]

1-year-old waders commonly spend the breeding season in/near the winter quarters. I've no idea if that applies here.

 

[dantheman]

Flush them.

Guessing the OP doesn't have a time machine ... ;-)

Shocking suggestion mind - welfare of the birds and all that.

 

[Valéry Schollaert]

Is there a resident population, Oct must be a bit early for Collared to be in Sub-Saharan Africa?

Collared breeds locally and can be seen year-round. Black-winged is unlikely in "summer" (=local winter) (May - August), but in October, both are there. In Botswana, Black-winged a present in numbers from September to April.

I agree OP bird looks like Collared.

 

[Cobalt]

Thank you for all your help guys, much appreciated