Upton Warren (105 Viewers)

[Phil Andrews]

Phil
Thanks for number.
Question if I may? Most little rings seem to read please phone either British Museum or owner in case of racing pigeons. This ring obviously has a purpose but if the bird has a unique number on the darvic what purpose does this one serve and why? Okay that's 2 questions!

Thanks
Phil E

One for the ringers I'm afraid Phil - I suspect the metal ring is a general BTO ring across schemes / species whilst the colour ring is unique to this programme. Sounds plausible?

 

[Phil Andrews]

Will I breach any rules/ protocols by publishing pics of the avocet chick hatching? Despite the up close and personal views the pics were shot from the hide using very powerful gear and does not directly identify the position of the nest, unless you know where it is already. Also shows the eggs.
Thanks
Phil E

The gallery guidelines indicate it is not permitted - http://www.birdforum.net/help/Gallery_Guidelines - but a PM direct to one the mods (Delia Todd and postcardcv are both online) should clarify

 

[Phil Andrews]

The results of Sy's thread on the ID forum for our hybrid gull have been positive for it being a first summer Med Gull x BH Gull http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=306705. Interestingly Brian advises that probably the same bird was at Marsh Lane in late April; perhaps we could have the Melodious Warbler next .....

 

[Where Bird]

Rings and Nests

Thanks Phil for the info.

As you say one for the ringers. Most BTO rings I've found refer you to a Brit museum phone number; in short you'll only likely contact them if you find the bird injured or dead.

Recalling the local ringed cetti it was done with coloured rings linked to a local ringing scheme I presume. Increasingly a large number of LBBs are being ringed with little metal rings with numbers on. I guess the same thing applies as for the BTO rings except no phone number obviously.
Again a question for the ringers.

Re the nest hatching pics I've read another part of the forum which suggests it might be possible.
Anyway will respect the forum and not post.

Will contact an administrator and check.
With the advent of high powered scopes and cameras the means to take these pics is increasingly improving everyday and without the birds even knowing they have been photographed. ( Heck the partner nearly flattened the chick by standing on it.. or was it perhaps a rival.)

 

[Where Bird]

BHG x Med Gull

Not being picky honest Phil.o

Sy V termed it a BHG x Med query and both Lou and Brian have suggested it as that in response.
Might recording it as a Med x BHG be a slip of the fingers.o There is a difference I think. Okay so I only have a small brain!

Phil E

 

[Phil Andrews]

Not being picky honest Phil.o

Sy V termed it a BHG x Med query and both Lou and Brian have suggested it as that in response.
Might recording it as a Med x BHG be a slip of the fingers.o There is a difference I think. Okay so I only have a small brain!

Phil E

You are right - there is a difference although I am not sure how you tell which parent was the Med

 

[Where Bird]

The gallery guidelines indicate it is not permitted - http://www.birdforum.net/help/Gallery_Guidelines - but a PM direct to one the mods (Delia Todd and postcardcv are both online) should clarify

Phil and others generally - contacted an administrator and pointed to the appropriate thread where the reasons were given for the blanket ban. Won't argue with any of it.
So sadly they remain in my collection. Don't do Flikr etc and I guess if there are fools about I shouldn't encourage them by posting there either. Even if I do make it very clear how far away I was.
Phil

 

[upstarts1979]

All chicks doing well. That's GCG 1. Shoveler 8. gadwall 5. lapwing 1. oystercatchers 2.common tern 5. lesser whitethroat 2. also Otter on moors. Common tern 10. raven.

 

[upstarts1979]

At the Flashes this afternoon.
Teal 4, shelduck 2 + 7 almost fully grown chicks. tufted 12 + 6 chicks c 10 days old at least on 1st Flash.
Avocet 44 - 47 + 1 chick in south saucer area.
Lapwing 40, Oystercatcher 2 + chick now in between 2nd and 3rd Flash. LRP 4, Green Sand in delta, Hybrid MedxBHG.
House martin 35,

 

[upstarts1979]

A few pics from today
1. Shoveler + 8 chicks Moors
2. Tufted + 6 chicks 1st Flash.
3. Avocet with 2 day old chick
4. Lapwing chick Amy's marsh on East bank
5. Common Tern on raft plus 2 chicks one half the size of its sibling.

 

[upstarts1979]

Only news from the Flashes via Steve spike is : now 2 fresh avocet chicks in saucer
Paul R had 3 chicks this afternoon.

 

[Phil Andrews]

A second pair of breeding Shoveler! I hope this brood fares better than the first.

Brian advises that Shoveler also bred in the Avon Valley this year

 

[upstarts1979]

Brian advises that Shoveler also bred in the Avon Valley this year

Yes.... sorry to Si Border I had forgotten he had them breeding on his patch JB reserve:t:

 

[upstarts1979]

Dave J had our first Common Sand x3 on the Sailing pool. also green sand and a genuine Med Gull 1st Summer . 48+ Avocet and 3 chicks.

 

[upstarts1979]

Dave J at Moors: 3 more common sand now 6 in total. chicks as follows common tern 2:2. gadwall 5. lapwing and oystercatcher. plus GCG

 

[Birder Gladys]

Barnacle goose just dropped in moors

 

[Birder Gladys]

beat our previous two weeks Sunday afternoon count by 2,highlight Barnacle goose came in with 4 Canada geese on moors also pretty green sand at the flashes.Record photos only hopefully someone will post better ones later.

 

[Phil Andrews]

Barnacle goose just dropped in moors

Clearly a failed breeder moving south from the high Arctic First of the year.

 

[upstarts1979]

John Oates from Marsh Lane visited Upton this afternoon and had a migrant juv LRP. He also stated that the 1st summer Med looked like the same bird that was at Marsh lane last week.

 

[AlanH46]

Moors Pool, Flashes and Salwarpe

Moors Pool:-
The Lapwing chick and at least one Oyc. chick are still present. One pair of Oyc's were displaying and mated several times.

Flashes:-
There were at least six LRP's including 2 full grown juvs.

Salwarpe:-
Despite several of the Wych Elms having died there were 6 or 7 White Letter Hairstreaks around the normal bushes, at the Swan end of the path. Also 1 or 2 Marbled Whites in the same area.