JabaliHunter
Well-known member
First we are told no 7x42 and then no 8x32; but Zeiss apparently promised a new 'birding glass'. Perhaps we shall see a 7x35 HT ? 
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Here are the new Victorys: Victory HT (1 Viewer)
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Mac308
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Perhaps we shall see a 7x35 HT ?
Be still my heart! A 7x32 or 7x35 would be my ULTIMATE binocular...
Mac308
Well-known member
Lee, that about sums up this entire thread/overview of the HT...
First we are told no 7x42 and then no 8x32; but Zeiss apparently promised a new 'birding glass'. Perhaps we shall see a 7x35 HT ?
I think some prefer a 7x for birding magnification while others say 8x or I prefer 10x. So not sure if Zeiss should come on strong and state that the 7x is the birding lens as it wouldn't be true...
james holdsworth
Consulting Biologist
Well, there was one user that wanted to pitch the HT in the dustbin after a brief viewing in a shop, so it's not unanimous.:king:
First we are told no 7x42 and then no 8x32; but Zeiss apparently promised a new 'birding glass'. Perhaps we shall see a 7x35 HT ?
I have seen and heard nothing about such a concept as a 'birding binocular' from various Zeiss contacts around the world at any stage.
And while we have been told there will be no HT 8x32 (which would make sense as the HT concept is based partly on the Abbe-Konig prisms that are only suitable for full sized bins) this does not preclude, at some time in the future, a premium 32mm series called something else (sorry CJ
)Lee
Hermann
Well-known member
That's my impression as well. There will be *something* new (but nobody knows when ...), and from what I've heard it won't be called "HT" because that concept is tied to AK prisms.
I also don't think there's any chance of Zeiss making a 7x35. Remember the 7x42s (Classic and FL) didn't sell well enough to keep them in production.
Hermann
brocknroller
porromaniac
I inadvertently saw that Frozen Juanita :gh: (never put bananas in the refrig-er-ator! Da-Da-Da Daa) is selling her "as new" 8x32 SV EL for a yet to be seen or heard about 8x32 HT.
Geez, and I thought Dennis was a follow of fashion. But then again, he doesn't own a $1,575 pair of Tabitha Simmons ‘Wicked’ Bootie shoes like she does.
http://pinterest.com/pin/244320348505754424/
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Geez, and I thought Dennis was a follow of fashion. But then again, he doesn't own a $1,575 pair of Tabitha Simmons ‘Wicked’ Bootie shoes like she does.
http://pinterest.com/pin/244320348505754424/
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Chosun Juan
Given to Fly
..... And while we have been told there will be no HT 8x32 (which would make sense as the HT concept is based partly on the Abbe-Konig prisms that are only suitable for full sized bins) this does not preclude, at some time in the future, a premium 32mm series called something else (sorry CJ
Lee
AAAaaaarrrgggghhhhHHH ....... Lee !!! |^|
I am NOT explaining it again for free! |:x|
Needless to say, unfortunately you are wrong (on both counts). :brains:
I will forthwith be charging 250EURO each time to point anyone in the right direction (have to rustle up the readies somehow in the face of a plunging Ozzie dollar ....... =( |8(|
Once payment has been confirmed, you will inescapably see from the manufacturer's quotes provided that there can, and indeed will be an S-P 8x32 HT
Chosun :gh:
Chosun Juan
Given to Fly
I inadvertently saw that Frozen Juanita :gh: (never put bananas in the refrig-er-ator! Da-Da-Da Daa) is selling her "as new" 8x32 SV EL for a yet to be seen or heard about 8x32 HT.
Geez, and I thought Dennis was a follow of fashion. But then again, he doesn't own a $1,575 pair of Tabitha Simmons ‘Wicked’ Bootie shoes like she does.
http://pinterest.com/pin/244320348505754424/
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Brock ....... wtf man??!! :h?: :egghead: 3
:cat:Tabitha Simmons = very nice, but when I'm gonna be wicked, this is more my style http://pinterest.com/pin/244320348507073891/
Or if I'm expecting 'disagreement', then I might opt for these - kinda like my Kung Fu slippers - but more no-nonsense, business-like - real b*ll*cks sorters! .... 'teehee' http://pinterest.com/pin/244320348506622989/
Chosun :gh:
Wow! So many opinions on this binoc.
I have recently decided to upgrade my Burris 10x50s. I know I know.....probably not a well regarded instrument. It has served me well however in hunting and casual birding.
I read with interest about these HTs.......I know Zeiss means quality...but it takes some serious money to acquire this instrument...my Burris cost $400 15 years ago..........could some one here distill the 68 pages of comments down to a paragraph or 2?
Thanks
I have recently decided to upgrade my Burris 10x50s. I know I know.....probably not a well regarded instrument. It has served me well however in hunting and casual birding.
I read with interest about these HTs.......I know Zeiss means quality...but it takes some serious money to acquire this instrument...my Burris cost $400 15 years ago..........could some one here distill the 68 pages of comments down to a paragraph or 2?
Thanks
I have had Zeiss FL 8x42s for some years and it is widely regarded as one of the brightest and sharpest of bins.
The HT 8x42 comfortably surpasses the FL in all areas but one. The one it doesn't is that its a bit heavier. Optically the HT has more of everything: brightness, colour, contrast. It will also view closer to the sun (but be careful!) as it handles veiling glare or flare better.
Other alphas have their own appeal: Leica Ultravid HD has warmer colours which some prefer but which to me seem a bit artificial. Swaros SV is said to be sharper nearer the edge of the field (I haven't looked through one) but it comes with some odd distortions that most people don't see but some find troubling.
The HT brings its own blend of appeal to the table, presenting a view that has a glowing transparancy to it that I find really alluring.
Try one to find out if its your kind of view.
Lee
Chosun Juan
Given to Fly
$400, 15 years ago, was a not inconsequential amount of money ...... somewhere in the order of 1/3 of an HT retail now .....
Much has been written about the new Zeiss - most of it fun, some informative, some resulted in 'dead ducks' and 'cooked gooses' (and a warranted wariness of 'little birdies' in general! :gn
- a fair portion of it though, was a storm in a (H)T-cup !! :smoke:Nice summation Lee (from a happy new owner to boot) :t:
If I can add to it - The HT is widely regarded as a bit of magik-like alchemy - the resulting Wow! somehow greater than the sum of it's incrementally better parts. :h?: :brains:
Most are of this opinion. One owner thinks it has firmly relegated the former 'alpha' FL's to the ranks of the dull and lifeless |8.|. Another (one only) inexplicable bod wanted to throw it in the bin after a brief look. Some that have never even looked through one find the edges unsatisfactory - but then that's just running true to form. One early adopter has had a dickens of a time with what he felt was a sub-par focuser. Most on here hanker after it - some are genuinely afraid to look at it, lest they be compelled to purchase it. Everyone knows that one particular chap WILL purchase it, despite his pumping up and inflation of other models - it's just a matter of time ..... :cat:
The Nikon EDG also offers a fine all-around view, if somewhat warmishly tinged for some. Perhaps the HT's nearest rival is the Swarovski SLC-HD. Though the brightest of the competitors - even it cannot touch the HT for brightness. Some like it's more realistic colour representation though.
15 years is long enough! - I think you owe it to yourself to have a look through one, and try it on for size ......
Chosun :gh:
Thank you for the welcome & replies. They have helped. There are some EXTREMELY knowledgeable people here! I think I will be acquiring a pair of these........but wanted to be assured I was making a sound decision.....it IS a lot of money. Need to put my hands on one. Not possible in my town.
I do appreciate the reports that owners of these provide. I will continue to research and lurk.
BTW......my state of Jefferson is that 51st state that some propose is South of Eugene,OR and North of Sacramento,CA
I do appreciate the reports that owners of these provide. I will continue to research and lurk.
BTW......my state of Jefferson is that 51st state that some propose is South of Eugene,OR and North of Sacramento,CA
eddy the eagle
Well-known member
No,a little birdie did not tell me but I believe the next HT instrument will be a Diascope HT scope to replace the current model,which I bought last year.The view in the HT bino makes the current Diascope relatively murky.I would certainly purchase an HT Diascope if they made one......Eddy.
So.....this often mentioned 'edge' effect or sweet spot. What are we talking here?
Is the sweet spot a certain % of overall view that some here have said is unsatisfactory?
On another note, I have noted that several owners claim that the viewing performance in adverse lighting conditions....ie... towards the Sun is unmatched by anything else in existence. Wow! That would be a very important metric to me. As I am often viewing East facing slopes in the afternoon when the Sun is low to the horizon.
Is the sweet spot a certain % of overall view that some here have said is unsatisfactory?
On another note, I have noted that several owners claim that the viewing performance in adverse lighting conditions....ie... towards the Sun is unmatched by anything else in existence. Wow! That would be a very important metric to me. As I am often viewing East facing slopes in the afternoon when the Sun is low to the horizon.
Now Roseburg don't get carried away by other folks' enthusiasm. I have certainly posted that my HT comfortably beats FL in this respect but have never got close to saying its better than anything else in existence. And I don't recall anyone else saying that either.
However it is so good peering into the light that you owe it to yourself to have a look through one if this aspect is important to you.
Good luck
Lee
