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  1. magifrig

    Gran Canaria and Tenerife, July 2019

    Thanks for the kind words Paul. My personal view is that none of the Nanday populations inspire confidence but I guess we'll keep following the national lists; that approach seems to cause the fewest arguments! Cheers Graeme Joynt
  2. magifrig

    Gran Canaria and Tenerife, July 2019

    Maybe you're right about those populations Paul but for comparative purposes e.g. netfugl and BUBO we've agreed to follow the official national lists of the countries within the Western Pal. There's really no other logical way to do it is there? Once you start trying to make your own decisions...
  3. magifrig

    Gran Canaria and Tenerife, July 2019

    SEO is the official body in Spain, including the Canaries. They adjudicate on all rare bird claims and produce the annual Spanish Rarities Report. But it's your own personal list so I guess you can count what you like! Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  4. magifrig

    Gran Canaria and Tenerife, July 2019

    https://simientedisidente.com/lista-de-las-aves-de-espana-2019/?cn-reloaded=1 Above is a link to the latest official Spanish list, including the Canary Islands. Scroll down about 8 paragraphs or so to the link. No Nanday I'm afraid, though you can now have Red-masked Parakeet on the mainland...
  5. magifrig

    Gran Canaria and Tenerife, July 2019

    Sorry to spoil the fun but Nanday Parakeet is definitely NOT on Cat C of the Spanish list, which includes the Canaries. A new list was actually released just a few weeks ago. The only country you can count it in is Israel, though I haven't heard of any reports in recent years. Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  6. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    Range of ssaposhnikowi all wrong though surely by IOC taxonomy? Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  7. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=274336&page=3 includes discussion of Black-headed Penduline Tit (page 3 in particular). No definite records, so it would be a first for the WP. Except that, as Brian points out, the white throat surely indicates a hybrid, or at least not a pure...
  8. magifrig

    Western Palearctic Master list with all recorded taxa

    Hi Maffong The thread below covers a lot of WP listing matters, including Black-headed Penduline Tit, which should not be on the list. Worth reading the whole thread given your interest in the WP �� http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=274336 Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  9. magifrig

    Western Palearctic Master list with all recorded taxa

    Hi Maffong Variable Wheatear is on the Kuwait list (two recent records). Red-billed Firefinches are apparently common in Djanet in southern Algeria. Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  10. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    Worth noting that Muscovy Duck is now Cat C in Italy (at Lake Orta) and that Yellow-headed Amazon and Swan Goose are countable in southern Germany. Cheers, Graeme Joynt P.S. still no idea how anyone separates lucidus and maroccanus Cormorants. Googling pics doesn't seem to help! Tempting to...
  11. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    Why maroccanus is included within carbo and not lucidus is surely one of the great WP mysteries! Does anyone know how to separate the 2? Cormorants occur all down the coast from Oued Massa (supposedly maroccanus) to the Banc D'arguin (lucidus) and I've never understood why they're regarded as...
  12. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    Hi Paul I've been 6 times in autumn and only ever seen one...... Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  13. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    Incredible! Hadn't even considered that as a reason for their demise...thanks for the information Pedro. Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  14. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    Hi Pedro I noted with interest earlier in this thread that Black-headed Munia is now extinct in Portugal as a Category C species. I think it was only added to the Portuguese list in 2006 or thereabouts, yet there have been no records since 2011. How can a self sustaining bird last for just 5 or...
  15. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    For those interested in the development and maintenance of the WP list, the following thread is interesting http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=274336 Although it concerns the details of the Italians' attempt to produce a list, I think that one is now out of date, as is the AERC list...
  16. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=274336&page=3 We (PAC and myself) didn't include chinensis (Grey-throated Martin) based on the info in the link above.... Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  17. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    http://www.netfugl.dk/ranking.php?id=wp&mode=ranking The link above details all the top WP listers, as far as I know every 800+ birder is there. Most can be found on Corvo in October and a great bunch they are too! Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  18. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    Crested Honey Buzzard is the big bonus today, still some WP listers over 800 who need that.... Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  19. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    Crossed wires I guess, that's what I meant. My worry is that BOU will follow HBW. B-t Thrush is rare but fairly regular in Kuwait. Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  20. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    No plans to update any lists prior to the BOU decision. Once that happens I guess things will change.....but Jens is a busy guy and is currently away in Peru, so keeping the WP list up to date is the priority at the moment. Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  21. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    Seems sensible to wait and see what the BOU do.... personally I would go with IOC but I have a nasty feeling they might follow HBW and the crazy (IMO) Tobias system. If that happens we will have a decision to make... Cheers, Graeme Joynt
  22. magifrig

    2017 Western Palearctic Big Year

    Not true guys, Jens continues to update netfugl with input from PAC and myself. We were updating the existing netfugl WP list in accordance with BOU updates but they became 'frozen in time' ��. If you check the list you will see that new additions are added quickly e.g. Ruppell's...
  23. magifrig

    Russia June 2016; the Urals, Yekaterinburg and the Orenburg Steppes

    Yeah, we've probably taken it a bit too far now but might as well keep going |;| Such a tough area to work, with habitat literally as far as the eye can see in all directions - and that's from the top of Mt Kvarkush! The ridge runs a LONG way north of course but you are limited to just a...
  24. magifrig

    Russia June 2016; the Urals, Yekaterinburg and the Orenburg Steppes

    Thanks Paul, some of the guys seem to know how to use a camera! Graeme
  25. magifrig

    Russia June 2016; the Urals, Yekaterinburg and the Orenburg Steppes

    Not long back from a memorable trip to the eastern edge of the Western Pal. Chris Bell has produced a report so thought I'd share it here. Any questions just ask! Cheers, Graeme Joynt
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