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  1. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    That may still be acceptable for binoculars for 200 euros, but if it goes into the region of 400 dollars and significant more it could become expensive! I just don't understand the sense of the measure, why not at least 10 years guarantee and is good? It's always a winner-loser combination, the...
  2. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    I only know it from IS binoculars and that affects the electronics. 2 years is not a good thing... Andreas
  3. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    Has anyone thought about the 2 year guarantee? Why so short? Andreas
  4. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    Hello Brock, I know that Nikon can build really great binoculars, I still have the EDG 8x32 myself and had the EDG 7x42 for a long time. The EDG are absolutely at eye level with the European brands. Unfortunately, I belong to an absolute minority who have ever used an EDG here, many binocular...
  5. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    But that would contradict a premium binoculars from China?! In principle, it wouldn't matter, why shouldn't the Chinese try their hand at high-end optics, in the end it would be the consumers who would decide whether there was a real market opportunity, the small number of amateur astronomers...
  6. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    Paul, My impression is that American politicians have been paying more attention to not handing over everything to China for a number of years. It should be clear that these processes cannot be done overnight. Europe is becoming increasingly independent of Russian energy and the focus is...
  7. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    Then they won't get my money anymore! Paul, I think a rethinking process is taking place now that the stupid Germans have made themselves dependent on Russian energy for decades and have thus made a lot of money possible for Putin's desire to expand - at least some seem to have woken up. Why...
  8. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    Middle class is maybe something different than premium? By the way, I'm not that pessimistic, the Chinese, like other manufacturers, want to achieve maximum profits, which is best fed with low-budget consumer goods, why should they conquer the market in the high-end area if the profits here...
  9. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    Hi Brock, the original question was whether the Chinese would bring premium binoculars onto the market in the next few years that would be competitive across the board. Nikon is active on the European market with all its products and many people buy Nikon binoculars in the low-budget segment...
  10. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    Hi Brock, of course nobody knows what will happen in the long term, but in the short or medium term I don't believe that the Chinese will prevail with Alpha binoculars. Look, the North American and European markets differ in terms of binoculars, in the USA there are manufacturers who are...
  11. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    https://www.birdforum.net/threads/looking-for-an-8x32-in-the-300-range.436686/ Post "20" "The Oberwerk SE should really be compared with top level roofs. If you read through this CN thread you'll hear about the SE being comparable to A Leica BN and Swarovski EL:" Andreas
  12. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    Jain, I've looked through an Oberwerk before, that didn't knock my socks off, but I really don't know the SE, you're right! ;) But is it so presumptuous to assume that 250 euro binoculars can hardly have the performance of 1500 euro binoculars? Andreas
  13. Conndomat

    Product Review: Oberwerk SE 8 x 32 ED.

    Hello Brock, in my opinion, the main group of buyers for the Oberwerks is generated in the astro scene, especially on CN, the glasses are extremely hyped by some people and everyone who is not on the tree at three gets an Oberwerk foisted on them. "Astros" usually have a completely different...
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