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  1. J

    Birdwatchers' world record bid (BBC News)

    I should probably stop reading this thread, that said, if this is a reference to yours truly, my proposed journey to China would be as part of my partner's once-in-10-year pilgrimage to see her family. It is regrettable and sounds rather dramatic but the fact of the matter is we'd have to fly...
  2. J

    Birdwatchers' world record bid (BBC News)

    Even I have the class not to list what I do do unless you're really desperate to know, suffice to say I hope it's enough. However I did give Alan and Ruth the full rundown and I really wish I'd seen their faces when they read it. The shame is theirs for issuing such a flippantly offensive and...
  3. J

    Birdwatchers' world record bid (BBC News)

    For what's it worth, after everything I'd said about the Biggest Twitchers, I thought I should ask them directly about the carbon emissions of their trip, because for all I knew they could have very carefully totted it up and half their money could have been going on carbon offset schemes. So...
  4. J

    Birdwatchers' world record bid (BBC News)

    To some degree I'm quite certain it's envy, equally I'm sure it's the exasperation of moderating one's own behaviour only to hear stories of what others saw by not giving two hoots about their carbon emissions. A little of column A and B, I'd say. As far aviation being an easy target goes, I'm...
  5. J

    Birdwatchers' world record bid (BBC News)

    I'm going slightly off topic here, but I don't see it this way at all. For me, Eco-tourism is an excuse for foreign holidays, and just isn't going to contribute anywhere near enough to preserve enormous habitats like rainforests. At best, it'll pay for pockets of trees, and we'll end up with...
  6. J

    Birdwatchers' world record bid (BBC News)

    I read on their diary that they expect to be passing through Gatwick/Stanstead several times, with trips to Ecuador, Finland, Brazil and Spain, among other destinations. Now considering a return flight from London to New York releases about 1.5 tonnes of carbon, while the average carbon...
  7. J

    Birdwatchers' world record bid (BBC News)

    Well... the same goes for everybody who flies down to the Med for their holidays. All those individuals choosing to fly creates the demand for more flights. It's trite but really, in terms of aviation's influence on climate change, we're part of the solution or part of the problem, and the...
  8. J

    Birdwatchers' world record bid (BBC News)

    It's all a bit Live8 though, isn't it? People can spend all kinds of money on themselves, doing all kinds of environmental damage, having the time of their lives, in the name of charity and 'awareness', and it's all good. Well no, it isn't, the criticisms are fair. This pair's carbon emissions...
  9. J

    Birdwatchers' world record bid (BBC News)

    I must be a terrible cynic, the first thought to strike me after reading this was they're going to produce one mother of a carbon footprint on this trip.
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