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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Hi CJ, I did once try clicking on one of the bird names to see what I got, and got a message to say that I hadn't subscribed to be able to view the videos. Michael- Michael Frankis
- Post #135
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Ah but Steppe Grey doesn't have a link to one of their pay-per-view video library clips, Southern Grey does - so they get more income if they call it Southern Grey ;) Michael- Michael Frankis
- Post #131
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Hi Darrell, They're only giving it as the species as a whole, not specifically the nominate race meridionalis. Presumably in view of the doubt as to exactly which race it is. Michael- Michael Frankis
- Post #129
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Hi Chris, Got to it from the home page. The link above didn't have the full address, that's why the problem; in full it is: http://www.homepages.mcb.net/wormwell/June%20BOM.htm Michael- Michael Frankis
- Post #115
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Hi Chris, No luck on that: "Not Found The requested URL /wormwell/June was not found on this server. Apache/2.0.45 (Win32) Server at www.homepages.mcb.net Port 80" Michael- Michael Frankis
- Post #111
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Hi CJ, What does Mr evans say then?? (not being a UK400 member, I don't have access to the website) Did he claim to find it for himself or something? Or that it is actually Chinese Grey Shrike? ! Michael- Michael Frankis
- Post #105
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Tricky conclusions from two great photos . . . ! On both the above photos, primary #2 is a bit shorter than #6 in length (ascendent numbering). From Lefranc & Worfolk: pallidirostris #2 = #5 or slightly longer excubitor #2 shorter than #6 So it is excubitor on wing formula . . . unless this...- Michael Frankis
- Post #100
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
And of course, whoever does try to ring it will have to be careful, or the shrike will get a human DNA sample - I gather shrikes in the hand enjoy shredding fingers :eek!: Michael- Michael Frankis
- Post #90
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Hi CJ, An elegans/pallidirostris intergrade isn't a possibility, as their respective breeding ranges are over a thousand miles apart (Turkmenistan to southernmost Jordan; map in Lefranc & Worfolk), with race aucheri between them. An intergrade aucheri/pallidirostris is worth bearing in mind...- Michael Frankis
- Post #89
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Hi Manxman, I think the BBRC are collectively just as familiar with prats as with pratincoles, and won't let such stuff affect their work :-)) Michael (but I suppose the BBRC won't be dealing with it anyway, it'll be the IoMRC)- Michael Frankis
- Post #78
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
"3. I think a return foot passenger is £38 or so from Heysham" How far to walk from Douglas (if that's where the ship lands) to the shrike? "4. Bitter is about £1.75" What's the UK Pound / Manx Pound exchange rate, and do your banks make a £40 charge for changing £1.75 into another currency...- Michael Frankis
- Post #60
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
How does the Manx Tourist Board feel about the likely reduced income from fewer UK twitchers coming, if they feel it's not right to tick Manx birds on their UK list? Michael- Michael Frankis
- Post #54
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Checked in my copy of Svensson (4th ed.), and (very surprisingly) it doesn't even mention pallidirostris, or any of the Southern Grey Shrike subspecies other than meridionalis. Odd, as the book normally covers all of the races recorded in Europe very well. So not a lot of help there. Michael- Michael Frankis
- Post #18
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Hi CJ, Saw the Kuwait pic, pink bill and all, when I did the google search. Yep, the flight shot does show all-black secondaries, which at least rules out homeyeri race (which I saw Birdguides was listing it as a probable), that has a lot of white in the secondaries. Must admit, the tail...- Michael Frankis
- Post #10
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Hi CJ, I checked google and all the pics (all 7 of them!!) showed birds with pale bills, or at least largely pale with only a dark tip. True though that Lefranc & Worfolk do say "black in a few adults" Anyone attempted to get any flight shots, to see if there's any white in the secondaries...- Michael Frankis
- Post #6
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Just checked up in Lefranc & Worfolk, and (sorry to say!) it is definite Great Grey, race excubitor. A pallidirostris would have a pale beak (that's what 'pallidirostris' means!), a much larger white primary patch, and (usually) pale lores with the black cheek not running up to the bill. Michael- Michael Frankis
- Post #3
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A