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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    I appreciate all this discussion. There is a lot to all of it. Regarding the "easier" view of the Leicas and Nikons (I have never seen an EDG, so just taking this by reference), vs. "technical" or "analytical" of Zeiss, there are merits to both. I have a pair of 8x32SE's that I've nicknamed...
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    Spent a second afternoon looking at the SV, SL, FL, and UVHD+ 8x32s, as well as the UVHD+ 8x42 and 7x42. Very very interesting. The Leicas were viewed on the top of a parking garage adjacent to the Leica store, so not a great place to look but at least outside. The others were at the...
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    OK...I was wrong about the 8x32 FLs. I had more time with them today with fresh eyes, and I don't think my assessment about the Conquests being better is accurate. I think I was put off by the focus, which seems sort of silly - these definitely are in the realm of alpha pop (though I will say...
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    I haven't seen the 7x42 FLs, and now I really want to. They seem a bit tough to find.
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    It is very possible the sample I have used of the FL x32 is not the best. My bottom line is just that I prefer my Conquest HDs to them. It is not to say I don't think they are very good, because they are.
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    Hi Bill, I did look at them, as well as the 8x40s. I thought they were very cool, though I didn't love the handling - a little more bulk is nice. I also really want waterproof. Definitely part of the fun though!
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    Thanks for the long thoughtful responses. I appreciate the comment about using all day. That is one reason actually I like my Nikon SE's - they are a very comfortable view, best for all day hard birding. I realize that's not exactly what you are saying, but that too is a factor. The Uvid...
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    Yes, and the idea that anything in this category kills something else is silly. It's down to differences and preferences...and I feel like we're into a zone where I'd prefer whatever is in my hand...at least to a certain extent.
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    Well, I just returned from the Leica store in Bellevue, and it was a pretty darn interesting visit. I will say comparing binoculars at the end of a day of staring at a computer screen is non-optimal. But this is a purchase I want to take my time with, and it's nice to see things several times...
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    Hi Hermann, I have used the FLs several times, and just don't find them at the quality level I'm looking for. I personally find my Conquest HDs better, which I know may be a minority view but it's my experience. The SVs and ELs are clearly a step up. I'm realizing I have not really looked...
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    I have owned all the binoculars I listed for some period except the FLs. However, I have used the FLs many times. Not even close to the ranking I would put them at relative to each other.
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    Thanks Edmund - I would definitely put these on the list, but since they're not sealed...off the table. I find sealed binocs with the hydrophobic coatings so helpful in terms of cleaning, and keeping the interiors clear -
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    Denco, I honestly find the Allbino ratings ridiculous and to have little bearing on reality. For example, I find the placement of the FLs at the top of the 8x32 list, with the Conquests at number 12, to be inaccurate. Having used both, I would take the Conquests every time. And honestly, the...
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    I really appreciate all the helpful responses. I've been posting on and off in other places so didn't want to overshare here. We have done the full circuit of subalpha 8x32 bins - owning good copies of Leica BNs, Conquest HDs, Nikon SEs. All three are great in their own particular way. We...
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    I posted this on the main bino thread, but folks here might not see it, and would love the input. I have been narrowing my decision on buying alpha 8x32s, trying to decide between the Zeiss and Swaros...and for some reason was just not paying attention to the Leicas. As I've stated...
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    Do folks think the Ultravid HD+ 8x32 is on par with the Zeiss SF or Swaro EL 8x32s?

    Hi all, I am going to make a purchase, and want to be completist with option consideration, and realized I hadn't considered these. I love our Leica BNs, they are so nicely made...there's a lot to be said for that. Asking because seeing the Ultravids will be a bit of an effort.
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