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    How much blackout do you tolerate in binoculars ?

    Ron Have you ever tried testing your binoculars on faint stars as EDZ suggested in the one CN thread. I've only tried it once but plan to try it again when I get a clear night and I'm not too dang tired. I did notice that my porros performed better than my roofs once I moved away from the...
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    How much blackout do you tolerate in binoculars ?

    So the general consensus is that porros do offer "full illumination" farther out from the center of the fov (off axis) than roofs???? Steve
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    How much blackout do you tolerate in binoculars ?

    Thanks Bruce Steve
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    How much blackout do you tolerate in binoculars ?

    Brock I'm not familiar with the "full illumination of the exit pupil" discussion, must have been discussed before I started reading the binocular forums. In the discussion on the CN thread I believe what EDZ was referring to is what Henry mentioned above "reduced illumination of the off axis...
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    How much blackout do you tolerate in binoculars ?

    Brock, When I was talking about the increased diameter of the ocular helping I was referring to the Habchit. I'm one of the fortunate ones who has no problem whatsoever with blackouts,kidney beaning, etc. when using the SE series. If you find the SE oculars a tight fit I bet the Fujinon FMTR...
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    How much blackout do you tolerate in binoculars ?

    Steve I forgot to mention that the EDG winged eye cups fit the SE perfectly with the rubber eyecups on the SE removed. I'll send a pic of the SE with the EDG winged eyecups and the Habchits with the Pro Star winged eyecups. They work great because the winged eyecups increase the diameter of...
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    How much blackout do you tolerate in binoculars ?

    Steve The EDG winged eyecups won't hardly slide over the SE eye cups but I know what you mean about this type of "modification". I need to use MOLCET or a similar technique with my 8x30 Habchits due to their short eye relief/small diameter oculars. The winged eyecups from my EDG are too large...
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    How much blackout do you tolerate in binoculars ?

    I also notice the better light transmission in porros compared to roofs. If comparing "apples to apples", i.e. same magnification, objective size, and build quality I've always found the porros to be brighter. I don't think it's just more light being transmitted but how it's transmitted...
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