German Treecreeper (1 Viewer)

rylirk

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• Sep 26, 2018

• #1

Dare I ask... Eurasian Treecreeper or Short-Toed Treecreeper? Outskirts of Hamburg.

Here's a video of the bird calling: https://youtu.be/VbEsJrzvlYk I didn't recognise the call so I was erring to short-toed?

 

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P.Sunesen

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• Sep 26, 2018

• #2

Eurasian Treecreeper.

Peter

 

rylirk

Well-known member

• Sep 26, 2018

• #3

Can I ask what the ID features are that clinch this ? I have nooo idea how to tell these apart

 

Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!

• Sep 26, 2018

• #4

rylirk said:

Can I ask what the ID features are that clinch this ? I have nooo idea how to tell these apart

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Three points to note:

1. That it is fairly whitish on its lower flanks; Short-toed is duskier, browner there. Not 100% reliable difference, but easiest first clue from a distance on a silent bird.

2. For confirmation, look at the exact shape of that pale band on the wing; note there's a slight split in it near the lower left end (arrowed red below). Short-toed doesn't have that. Not visible on a moving bird on a tree, needs close-up still photos to see, but is diagnostic.

3. Best of all: the calls are different.

Edit: forgot to add pic!

 

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Simon Wates

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• Sep 26, 2018

• #5

Eurasian Treecreeper for me too, calls on video are not Short-toed, which have a clearer lower pitched piping call, reminiscent in a way to the tone of Coal Tit's calls.

 

jogresh

Bimble and patch

• Sep 26, 2018

• #6

THe call on the video that i could hear is a Robin.

 

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Simon Wates

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• Sep 26, 2018

• #7

jogresh said:

THe call on the video that i could hear is a Robin.

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Yes but the thin silvery notes are the ET

 

jogresh

Bimble and patch

• Sep 26, 2018

• #8

The thin note at 2 secs is truncated/clipped rather than drawn out, doesn't sound like ET to me but rather a call of Robin.

 

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Simon Wates

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• Sep 26, 2018

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jogresh said:

The thin note at 2 secs is truncated/clipped rather than drawn out, doesn't sound like ET to me but rather a call of Robin.

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Actually I agree- hasty on my part (my excuse is our abundant wintering Robins are yet to arrive, and then their sounds will be everywhere)

Thanks