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ID help please 2 (north of Sweden) (1 Viewer)
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guernsey_dave
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I personally think Tree Pipit
fine flank streaking, very pale around the eye, less strong mantle streaks, fine pale edges to the tertials
fine flank streaking, very pale around the eye, less strong mantle streaks, fine pale edges to the tertials
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guernsey_dave
Registered User... registered user sounds like som
I couldn't be completely sure - and looking again, in the last photo it seems to show a long back claw on the right leg which could indicate meadow rather than tree? I still think tree though
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I don't say it's a Meadow's, but some characters point to Meadows, IMHO : second picture shows rather bold streakings (or are they misplaced feathers ?), there doesn't seem to be any supercilium or ear spot, hind claw seems long and, especially, straight, looks small (Tree often looks rather big) with small bill.
Frenchy
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Frenchy
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I'm only joking. Its good that you don't count it just because someone says it is one. Its always best to be able to identify things for yourself, even if the ID initially comes from someone else, you at least have to be able to see what they are saying. I'm sure you'll find another easier Tree Pipit soon. Just go back to where you took these pictures and listen for the call...
JANJ
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Also showing nicely in Frenchy,s friends pic. of the Tree pipit is the heavier bill, wider pale sub-moustachial stripe, the tiny dark stripe in front of the eye - breaking the eyering. In some Tree Pipits - the Olive-backed Pipit pale patch below and behind the rear end of the supercilium and below the pale patch a dark spot is rather well shown here. The hind claw in Tree is shorter and obviously curved (7-9mm). Meadow has a longer and straighter - although not Lark like straight but less curved than Tree (10-13mm).
The bill of the subject bird looks Meadow Pipit thin and what I can see - with a long straight hindclaw. Flank streaking looks thin but there are also some broader steaks there as well and by looking at the third pic. one gets a hint of a not so broadly streaked breast as well - which would then - all mentioned characters taken together - correspond better with Meadow. Flank streaking usually narrower compared to wider on the breast on Tree.
I´ll settle with Meadow for now.
JanJ
The bill of the subject bird looks Meadow Pipit thin and what I can see - with a long straight hindclaw. Flank streaking looks thin but there are also some broader steaks there as well and by looking at the third pic. one gets a hint of a not so broadly streaked breast as well - which would then - all mentioned characters taken together - correspond better with Meadow. Flank streaking usually narrower compared to wider on the breast on Tree.
I´ll settle with Meadow for now.
JanJ
