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Falcon, Bulgaria (1 Viewer)
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rollingthunder
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Gut feeling and first impression with the lanky wings and what looks like a pale head would be a Red-foot for me:t:
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wolfbirder
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Really not sure, could be Red-foot, possibly Hobby?
Don't think you will be able to tell.
Don't think you will be able to tell.
rollingthunder
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No not really - the White could be a slightly extended crop of a Hobby...
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Alexander Stöhr
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I think, the pale head is at least partly due to lightning, head in sunlight, rest of the bird in shadow.
While a catiuos approach is often better, BOTH pictures shows a typical Hobby to me with long slender, swift-like wings in relation to body.
And I think I can see the right red colour on the trousers and pale, streaked underparts. Or is this wishful thinking? At least, they look so on my bad pictures of Hobbys.
While a catiuos approach is often better, BOTH pictures shows a typical Hobby to me with long slender, swift-like wings in relation to body.
And I think I can see the right red colour on the trousers and pale, streaked underparts. Or is this wishful thinking? At least, they look so on my bad pictures of Hobbys.
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wing shape looks very much Hobby to me
rollingthunder
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Agreed but unsure about the ‘lightning’:eek!:
Laurie:t:
Laurie:t:
Valéry Schollaert
Respect animals, don't eat or wear their body or s
Long tail is good for RFF, but I think the body is not striped, which is good for a mâle RFF (2 cy ?). The head is not white IMO, it is just due a strong light, rather on a dark area that is making more often this "flash" effect than pale areas.
wolfbirder
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Possible but is tail long enough?
So hard to tell from these 2 pictures alone.
So hard to tell from these 2 pictures alone.
KenM
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My abiding memory of Eleanora's Falcon adjacent to Mount Olympus Greece many years ago, was of an extremely long-winged and tailed Falcon, giving an extremely ''rakish'' look, quite unlike your images. :t:
Cheers
I agree
and I have no problem with tail length for Hobby https://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=627489
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Valéry Schollaert
Respect animals, don't eat or wear their body or s
Not Eleonora's for sure, shape of Hobby or RFF, but plumage better for RFF IMO.
rollingthunder
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The wing struck me as proportionately lanky and i am still in the RFF camp but it’s not Eleonorae the tail is far too short imo:t:
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Alexander Stöhr
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Looked at the pictures on two different screens now, and I agree with all now, that its not possible to be sure about the underpart streaking now. This bird could well have striped, I still think its possibl with such photos.
I am an expert in shooting bad pictures. Proof, if needed is here:
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmGBtoxe Hobby
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmGBrN6e Rff
But for me this bird looks like an IDable Hobby, wings on Rff look broader and not so swiftlike in my experience.
Sorry about lightning, I hope as a non native speaker, my english is as not as bad as my photos.
dantheman
Bah humbug
Is there no overlap (eg males vs females) in wing structure between the two?
English:- everyone loves to pick up on a good misspelling
Your language is absolutely fine, better than some natives I'd say ...Alexander Stöhr
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"English:- everyone loves to pick up on a good misspelling Your language is absolutely fine, better than some natives I'd say "
Thank you, dantheman!:t:
Your language is absolutely fine, better than some natives I'd say "Thank you, dantheman!:t:
