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kumlien's gull? (1 Viewer)
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Dante Shepherd
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I would say this bird fits within the variation of an Iceland Gull.
Nutcracker
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But so does Kumlien's, as a whole, seeing as it's just a subspecies of Iceland :t:
I'd think the dark marks on the primary tips place this in subspecies kumlieni.
SteveClifton
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Hotspur
James Spencer
Well for a start Kumlien's will be the default ssp for that location and the variation means that you would have to see the open wing and the tail to make a call. First winters are hard, especially subtle birds. The op's bird looks like a well marked Iceland but tbh I'm not sure you can rule Kumlien's out but given the UK location and what you can see I'd start with Iceland.
Try http://birdingfrontiers.com/2013/12/06/kumliens-gull-the-return/
Nutcracker
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So when/how does a 'dark' glaucoides become a 'pale' kumlieni? Has anyone ever followed the plumage progression of known colour-ringed birds to see what birds like this become as adults? And isn't it clinal variation, anyway?
