I hate pugs (1 Viewer)

Farnboro John

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• Apr 17, 2020

• #1

Anybody... please!

Photos 2 and 3 are the same individual with and without flash (or rather, without and with).

Grateful for any advice

John

 

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dantheman

Bah humbug

• Apr 17, 2020

• #2

Jack Russells are worse ...


... soz can't help, v rusty, need to get the old moth trap out myself!

 

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aeshna5

Well-known member

• Apr 17, 2020

• #3

Second one is Double-striped.

Think first may be Brindled but less sure on this one.

 

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renopaul

Bromborough, Wirral, UK

• Apr 17, 2020

• #4

I reckon 2/3 is Oak-tree.

Cheers
Paul

 

Farnboro John

Well-known member

• Apr 17, 2020

• #5

Hm. This is the problem... two people, two opinions. For me, in this location, normally Double-striped is the default pug.

However, 2/3 didn't strike me as quite right, the first problem for me being that it wasn't pointy-winged enough.

I do have oak trees that are older than I am (57) by a good bit - at any rate when I was a kid they were just as big - that have line-of-sight to my moth trap.

So, accepting that my opinion is not worth much here or I wouldn't have asked in the first place, could either of you explain why you think what you think, please?

(As for 1, I have had Brindled here before so its not out of the question. Personally I haven't a clue about this individual.)

Cheers

John

 

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renopaul

Bromborough, Wirral, UK

• Apr 17, 2020

• #6

Farnboro John said:

could either of you explain why you think what you think, please?

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My argument for Oak-tree: shortish, rounded wings. Bright, variegated appearance. Big wide discal spot with pale area beyond. Not relevant to ID here, but if you see it next to the similar Brindled Pug it's usually considerably smaller.

Cheers
Paul

 

Andy Adcock

Worst person on Birdforum

• Apr 17, 2020

• #7

Farnboro John said:

Hm. This is the problem... two people, two opinions. For me, in this location, normally Double-striped is the default pug.

However, 2/3 didn't strike me as quite right, the first problem for me being that it wasn't pointy-winged enough.

I do have oak trees that are older than I am (57) by a good bit - at any rate when I was a kid they were just as big - that have line-of-sight to my moth trap.

So, accepting that my opinion is not worth much here or I wouldn't have asked in the first place, could either of you explain why you think what you think, please?

(As for 1, I have had Brindled here before so its not out of the question. Personally I haven't a clue about this individual.)

Cheers

John

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Precisely the reason that our recorder won't accept many of them with dissection.

 

honeym

Well-known member

• Apr 18, 2020

• #8

I'd also say #2 and #3 were Oak-tree for me.
Wouldn't attempt #1 unless by gen det.
Martin

 

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Jim M.

Member since 2007

Supporter

• Apr 18, 2020

• #9

Farnboro John said:

Grateful for any advice

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Time to clean the windows.3

 

Farnboro John

Well-known member

• Apr 18, 2020

• #10

Jim M. said:

Time to clean the windows.3

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Touche! :-O

John

 

Paul Chapman

Well-known member

• Apr 19, 2020

• #11

1 is Brindled Pug - long narrow wing shape & thin discal spot. 2 & 3 are Oak-tree Pugs. (I haven't looked on my phone in bright light this time.)

All the best

 

Farnboro John

Well-known member

• Apr 20, 2020

• #12

Thank you everybody, very much appreciated!

John