Lima, Peru Passerines and a Parrot (1 Viewer)

rylirk

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• Mar 6, 2020

• #1

#1 taken in a park in the historic district in the city centre, the rest in some parkland bordering the ocean in Barranco.

1. No clue. Behaved like tyrant flycatchers
2. Not sure either; I thought vermilion flycatcher at the time, but I now think the shape is off (as well as what appears to be a red crest)
3. Vermilion flycatcher?
4. Southern Beardless-Tyrannulet?
5. Think these are White-Winged Parakeets. Too big and wide-winged for Pacific Parrotlet I think.

 

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Maffong

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• Mar 6, 2020

• #2

The first three are vermilion Flycatchers, in Lima there's a melanistic population. #4 is indeed a Southern Beardless-Tyrannulet.
Not sure if #5 can be identified, but it's definitely not Pacific Parrotlet

 

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THE_FERN

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• Mar 6, 2020

• #3

Maffong said:

The first three are vermilion Flycatchers, in Lima there's a melanistic population. #4 is indeed a Southern Beardless-Tyrannulet.
Not sure if #5 can be identified, but it's definitely not Pacific Parrotlet

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Agree these. The last actually looks more like a swift sp to me, not a parrot, but who knows with a pic of this quality

 

Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'

• Mar 6, 2020

• #4

There are a few established feral parakeet species in Lima.

 

rylirk

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• Mar 6, 2020

• #5

#5 was definitely a parakeet from call as they flew over. Only got this one terrible photo because they were too fast, but eBird states the only expected parrot sp. at this site are Pacific Parrotlet, White-Winged Parakeet and Red-Masked Parakeet. I'd arrived at the conclusion of White-Winged by eliminating the other two.

 

Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'

• Mar 6, 2020

• #6

ebird:- the new field guide to identification o

 

njlarsen

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• Mar 6, 2020

• #7

Larry Sweetland said:

ebird:- the new field guide to identification o

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While I also frequently use Ebird to limit the options, it is less useful for feral birds in at least some areas.

Niels

 

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THE_FERN

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• Mar 6, 2020

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Larry Sweetland said:

ebird:- the new field guide to identification o

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Nope you're wrong. It's merlin. And I don't know whether I'll feel more frustrated by an AI telling me my ID is wrong [already happened once!] or BF members...

...Of course, there'll soon be no more need for this particular bit of BF.

 

rylirk

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• Mar 6, 2020

• #9

Hey if I blindly trusted ebird, I wouldn't be here

 

Joern Lehmhus

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• Mar 6, 2020

• #10

Parakeet? can´t be whitewinged parakeet as in that species white in wings would shine through, like here

https://download.ams.birds.cornell.edu/api/v1/asset/50520381

https://www.hbw.com/ibc/photo/white...is-versicolurus/white-winged-parakeets-flight

 

rylirk

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• Mar 6, 2020

• #11

Could it not just be that the photo is dark? If I brighten it up I do get what appears to be a white (or at least lighter) underwing patch similar to those images

 

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rylirk

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• Mar 6, 2020

• #12

Having said that, I think the black wingtips would be visible in my image if they were white-wings, but I see no black wingtip. Underwing pattern looks good for red-masked imo, so I'm now favouring that?

 

Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'

• Mar 6, 2020

• #13

Personally I don't think you can exclude any species of parakeet on range in Lima. We get Cockatiels in Bristol sometimes. And Crimson Rosella. Doubt their on ebird

 

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THE_FERN

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• Mar 6, 2020

• #14

Larry Sweetland said:

Personally I don't think you can exclude any species of parakeet on range in Lima. We get Cockatiels in Bristol sometimes. And Crimson Rosella. Doubt their on ebird

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For example:
"These flocks also include some individuals of similar species of

parakeet such as the Scarlet-fronted Parakeet (Psittacara waglerii), Mitred Parakeet (Psittacara mitratus) and White-eyed Parakeet (Psittacara leucophthalmus)"​

https://www.avianreport.com/parakeets-in-lima/

...So white-eyed at least is a candidate [underwing in pics now looks red]

 

rylirk

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• Mar 6, 2020

• #15

I'm probably going to leave it as red masked for my records. Looks like that's one of the most common here, and it's not a lifer so it wont artificially boost my life list

 

Joern Lehmhus

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• Mar 6, 2020

• #16

rylirk said:

I'm probably going to leave it as red masked for my records. Looks like that's one of the most common here, and it's not a lifer so it wont artificially boost my life list

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I think its not safely identifiably from the single photo but if a parrot, it could well be a Psittacara sp.

 

Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'

• Mar 6, 2020

• #17

rylirk said:

I'm probably going to leave it as red masked for my records. Looks like that's one of the most common here, and it's not a lifer so it wont artificially boost my life list

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And therein lies the problem with ebird