A Couple of Crackers - Argentina/Brazil (1 Viewer)

Does anyone out there know their Hamadryas?

These 2 were photographed in August at Porto Iguazu, Argentina.

Close enough to the Brazilian border to be denizens of either, or both countries, and close to Iguazu falls.

The genus is extremely cryptic, particularly in the poses depicted, but I'm hoping that someone out there may have a level of familiarity that I don't possess.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

I'd have punt at Epinome Cracker Hamadryas epinone for both but no books to hand here.

Thanks Andy,

I didn't think I was going to get any response...

I've already positively identified one of my pictures as H.epinome but these 2 looked sufficiently different (variable) as to cause me some doubt. By this I'm not intending to imply that they are NOT H.epinome, just that I can't be sure, although my own 'gut feeling' is the same as yours, pending something more definitive!

I'm having trouble determining the range of H.guatemalen as a possible contender. It has apparently been recorded in this area, but many sites give its' southern limit as Central America!

My other contenders (should the pictures not be H.epinome) are:-

H.februa - Grey Cracker and
H.feronia - Variable Cracker

both of which I know are (fairly) common in this area.

I'm going to hold fire on this one for the moment, pending better source material (if I can find it). But your input is, as always, really appreciated.

Regards