Thank you all for your opinions and complements! But it does not seem to be conclusive.........
I think its safe to call the first photo a Common Swift - concluded as such by most folk on this thread.
Compare with this photo with similar lighting - note structure of head and body, "paddle shaped" wings and underwing and under tail covert patterning: https://www.flickr.com/photos/j_frade/7477914852/
The 2nd photo is trickier......