2 Wheatears from Mongolia this summer, photographed by a friend (1 Viewer)

[Joern Lehmhus]

She was traveling in Mongolia, but I do not know exact locations:

first bird (3 photos) here

 

[Joern Lehmhus]

second bird, different location

I was thinking Isabelline Wheatear, but would like a look by someone more experienced with the species ...

 

[Joern Lehmhus]

No other photos available, also no more detailed information on the birds as she is not a birder.

 

[Joern Lehmhus]

Nobody?
photos probably too bad...

 

[CARERY]

Firstly, photos are quite poor, secondly, juvenile wheatears are even worse than adults. However, the base colour of the remiges seems to be very dark, not good for Isabelline... what about Northern? But not sure at all.

 

[Joern Lehmhus]

Firstly, photos are quite poor, secondly, juvenile wheatears are even worse than adults. However, the base colour of the remiges seems to be very dark, not good for Isabelline... what about Northern? But not sure at all.

Just my problem!!! But thanks for answering nevertheless!

 

[lou salomon]

Thibaut once had a good view on juveniles with, if I remember correctly, describing the more extensive and more sandy colour to Isabelline's juveniles' tertial fringes. In most pics these look too reddish (and dark as Roland says). So, probably Northern. In stony areas you'd also expect Pied...

 

[Brian J Small]

For me these are fine for Isabelline

ML586271381 Isabelline Wheatear Macaulay Library

Macaulay Library ML586271381; © Howard Laidlaw; Almaty, Kazakhstan

macaulaylibrary.org

 

[Butty]

these are fine for Isabelline

It would be instructive - and useful, for many, and clearly for all who've contributed so far - to have some reasons.