Plaintive Cuckoo - Cacomantis merulinus or Banded Bay Cuckoo - Cacomantis sonnerati ? (1 Viewer)

[Dlareg]

Hello everyone,

I saw this cuckoo in Thailand (Saraburi (Provinz), Nong Mu, 12.2024.).
I think it is a female or young bird of Plaintive Cuckoo - Cacomantis merulinus or Cacomantis sonnerati.
Does anyone know the exact difference? I couldn't really find anything on the net.
I hope someone can help.

Best regards Gerald

 

[njlarsen]

Hello everyone,

I saw this cuckoo in Thailand (Saraburi (Provinz), Nong Mu, 12.2024.).
I think it is a female or young bird of Plaintive Cuckoo - Cacomantis merulinus or Cacomantis sonnerati.
Does anyone know the exact difference? I couldn't really find anything on the net.
I hope someone can help.

Best regards Gerald

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I think you would have more luck with this type of question if it was asked in the Bird Identification forum part of Birdforum
Niels

 

[Dlareg]

I think you would have more luck with this type of question if it was asked in the Bird Identification forum part of Birdforum
Niels

OK thanks. I am the first time here
Can you move the post ?

 

[njlarsen]

Any more photos? Can you see if the outer tail feathers are barred (plaintive) or unbarred (should indicate Banded Bay). Any image showing more of the underside?

I cannot move the post but I can use the report function to ask it get moved.
Niels

 

[Dlareg]

Any more photos? Can you see if the outer tail feathers are barred (plaintive) or unbarred (should indicate Banded Bay). Any image showing more of the underside?

I cannot move the post but I can use the report function to ask it get moved.
Niels

Yes please report, that would be nice.
These are all the photos I have.

 

[delia todd]

Hi Dlareg and a warm welcome to you from all the Staff and Moderators. As requested, I've moved your posts to the ID forum. Lovely pictures you've taken. Sorry I can't help with what they are though.

I do hope we may be able to see some of your pictures in the Gallery too.

I'm sure you will enjoy it here and I look forward to hearing your news.

 

[Dlareg]

Hi Dlareg and a warm welcome to you from all the Staff and Moderators. As requested, I've moved your posts to the ID forum. Lovely pictures you've taken. Sorry I can't help with what they are though.

I do hope we may be able to see some of your pictures in the Gallery too.

I'm sure you will enjoy it here and I look forward to hearing your news.

Hello Delia,
thank you very much for the warm welcome.
I still can't find the post in the Bird Identification forum
Probably takes a bit of time
Best regards Gerald

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[delia todd]

It's there now Gerald!! I got distracted half way through moving it and must have forgotten to save the changes. Sorry!

 

[Dlareg]

All good Now I can see it ! Thank you very much !!!

 

[njlarsen]

I would love to get feedback from someone local. However, if I interpret the images correctly, this is in favor of plaintive — unless there is a third option I have overlooked.
Niels

 

[Dlareg]

Plaintive Cuckoo (Cacomantis merulinus) was also my favorite also because of the habitat, only someone said it could also be the other one.

 

[Dlareg]

I would love to get feedback from someone local.

It's probably a bit too early to get feedback from someone local 💤

 

[Grahame Walbridge]

Yes, its a female Plaintive Cuckoo.

Banded Bay has darker, chestnut upperparts which are more evenly barred black, a broad white supercilium, brown eye stripe, white face and whiter underparts, compare ML75196501 - Banded Bay Cuckoo - Macaulay Library

Grahame

 

[Dlareg]

Yes, its a female Plaintive Cuckoo.

Hello Grahame,

thank you !!
Thanks to everyone for the help 👍