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I hate to throw a different slant on this because I defend ANY animal 'to the death' against human misuse/ abuse but I'm thinking a) polish immigrant - perhaps not savvy of the 'local' law - therefore b) person(s) involved must have been pretty desperate to try this one, bit like hand catching trout, definitely not easy. Perhaps it was luck he actually got it or he's done it before, perhaps where it's permissable to do so? Or you're not easily caught? As I said, to me there appears to be a note of desperation in all this and that to me opens a whole can of very different worms....
Bluetit
 
bluetit said:
polish immigrant - perhaps not savvy of the 'local' law - therefore b) person(s) involved must have been pretty desperate to try this one, bit like hand catching trout, definitely not easy. Perhaps it was luck he actually got it or he's done it before, perhaps where it's permissable to do so? Or you're not easily caught? As I said, to me there appears to be a note of desperation in all this and that to me opens a whole can of very different worms....
Bluetit

No excuse whatsoever. a. if you live abroad, you observe that countries law (I live in the part of the world where this guy comes from and naturally have to observe their laws). b. Gulls are not a traditional part of the diet in Poland either! c. what evidence of desperation is there? He is in the UK (presumably) because the wages are far better than in Poland (nothing wrong with that). If like the vast majority of people from this part of the world, he'll spend a few years working in the UK, then return to his native country with enough money to buy a house or flat (due to much cheaper prices in Eastern Europe). So, it is an assumption that this was an act of despiration.
 
Agree with Jos, no feeble excuses about not knowing the law. You check these things before you act.

As an aside, aren't Kittiwakes regular fare in Iceland?
 
yum yum.......

Herring Gull, roast potatos, cauliflower, yorkshire puddings and lots of thick gravy..... whats the matter with that?
 
Offord said:
As an aside, aren't Kittiwakes regular fare in Iceland?

You'd need to ask our resident Icelandic expert. It's entirely possible, as Puffin and Guillemot certainly are on the menu (and indeed are on the menu of the ferry that runs between Shetland and Iceland). AA Gill in the Sunday Times recently said,

"Guillemot, by the way, is ravishingly excellent — an unexpected, juicy cross between meaty liquorice and Noggin the Nog’s bum." ;)

And of course there's still an annual Gannet harvest in the UK on Sula Sgeir, which is a remnant of a once flourishing seabird consumption in Scotland:

http://www.wildlifehebrides.com/topten/goose/

ce
 
Offord said:
As an aside, aren't Kittiwakes regular fare in Iceland?

Kittiwake eggs are available in all good supermarkets (as are Common Guillemot eggs) in May/June but gulls are not eaten. You're confusing them with Puffins, Guillemots, Razorbills, Fulmars, Gannets, Ptarmigan and Cormorants, all of which can find themselves in the cooking pot (to varying degrees). I'm a Puffin and blueberry sauce man myself with a nice Australian Cabernet Sauvignon on the side.

E
 
Of course it was an assumption concerning the desperation of the act, but also whether he knew the law or not! What remains still is WHY he did it????!!!!????
Bluetit
 
Edward said:
Kittiwake eggs are available in all good supermarkets (as are Common Guillemot eggs) in May/June but gulls are not eaten.
E

Meanwhile back in Blighty, the enlightened burghers (geddit?!) of Totnes apparently do eat Herring Gulls:

http://www.totnes-bsac.co.uk/misc/gulls.html

You'd think this was firmly tongue in cheek, but it's very specific about how versatile a Herring Gull is in the kitchen:

Totnes has a secret legacy of sea bird dishes. Over the centuries, this secluded area of South Devon has come up with a number of ways of cooking the herring gull (Larus argentatus). Despite the unfashionable idea of eating sea gulls, the thrill of eating one of the many superb delicacies on offer still tempts the seabird connoisseur. Traditional dishes such as gull pie, marinated gull and mint, smoked gull souffle and roast gull have been extended by inventive offerings such as chillied gull with ginger, gull veronique and gull mousse through to the offbeat "lashings of larus". However, despite its bulky size, the gull is largely composed of feathers. One gull doesn't go very far. It is not a chicken - or a turkey. Serious gull cuisine needs considerable numbers of birds with which to prepare the dish.

and indeed a link from here thoughtfully provides some recipes:

http://www.totnes-bsac.co.uk/misc/recipes.htm

ce
 
JJ Audebon wrote during his river travels through N America that the worst bird he ate was the double crested cormorant.He frequently shot several individuals of each specie to use as subjects.Since he and his group were living off the land along the Miss. and Missouri rivers they ate all poor art subjects.
Sam
 
the bird said:
yum yum.......

Herring Gull, roast potatos, cauliflower, yorkshire puddings and lots of thick gravy..... whats the matter with that?



actually just been thinking I don't know whether to have mashed potatos or roast potatos, you see for me its quite rare to have Roast Gull.
 
I would be glad to extend my diet to include gulls (if only to give the poor pigs and cows a break) if it were not for their diet. They just eat cr*p these days. Even in the past, presumably they dined mainly on rotten fish and washed up detritus.
 
Thomas Hudson Nelson, who wrote the first Yorkshire Avifauna (about 1904, I think), used to dine on anything he got his hands on. He reported that young Oystercatchers were quite nice, but the older birds were a bit fishy. I think he tucked into a spoonbill once aswell. He also reports of Golden Plovers and lapwings being popular foods in the late C19.

having handled a fair few gulls, I'd have to say that they'd probably be a bit fishy and oily. And as for Fulmars.....!
 
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