Some Australian Raptors I need help with (1 Viewer)

[Greg McKay]

The first 2 birds were photographed at the Western Treatment plant Southern Victoria.
photos 1 and 2 are of the same bird
3 and 4 are of a different bird.
I believe both to be Swamp Harriers but need to rule out Spotted Harriers can someone help please?
The 5th photo is of what I believe to be a juvenile Brown Goshawk being distinct from a Collared Sparrowhawk but need confirmation.

 

[Chosun Juan]

Greg, I reckon yer right with the swampies in 1,2,3,4

As for the hawk - I won't hazard a guess unless I can see the middle toe!

Chosun :gh:

 

[Joshua-B]

Yep, 1, 2, 3, 4 are all swampie - uniform plumage in 1/2 and white-rump in pics 3/4 rule out spotted
As for the gosparrow, I would tentatively say Goshawk due to general jizz and the fat legs, but I'm not sure...

 

[John_WA]

Yep, 1, 2, 3, 4 are all swampie - uniform plumage in 1/2 and white-rump in pics 3/4 rule out spotted
As for the gosparrow, I would tenttively say Goshawk due to general jizz and the fat legs, but I'm not sure...

I agree with Josh, although also not 100% on the hawk - difficult from that angle

 

[Greg McKay]

And 1 more from the treatment plant.
I reckon its a Swamp Harrier as well.
Also head size and brow shape made me think Goshawk over Sparrowhawk but I have posted another photo of a second bird in extremely close proximity that may help.

 

[Joshua-B]

Swamp Harrier again, and that second one is definitely a goshawk