Three for confirmaton (1 Viewer)

[blackcountry mon]

Can anyone please confirm or I/D thse three moths from last night. Any help will be appreciated. 1 Copper Underwing 2. Trachycera advenella 3. A well marked Common Rustic.

 

[widiot]

Looks like you got 3 out of 3 :t:

 

[blackcountry mon]

Many thanks Widiot, much appreciated

 

[Steve Lister]

It could of course be a Svensson's Copper Underwing. I'm not sure if I'm looking at the right bits but it does look to have dark palps with small white tips.

Steve

 

[hjalava]

1. is Amphipyra pyramidea. It is not very reliable to ID those from the palps only, there are more and better differences in the wing markings.

 

[blackcountry mon]

Many thanks Steve and Harri, the input is much appreciated

 

[Steve Lister]

1. is Amphipyra pyramidea. It is not very reliable to ID those from the palps only, there are more and better differences in the wing markings.

If you could explain the differences it would be very useful. As a relative novice I go by the combination of underside of the hindwing and the palps, so anything about the upperwing would be very useful.

Steve

 

[trekker]

I have been looking into this and found this a couple of weeks ago, can anyone translate the info on this page?.
Steve.
http://www.lepiforum.de/cgi-bin/lepiwiki.pl?Amphipyra_Pyramidea

 

[antshrike69]

I was under the impression that the colour of the palps is not reliable, nor are some of the upperwing features. I only ever identify the two to species by the underwing pattern.

 

[hjalava]

Additionally I find this character very useful: