Trogon viridis - Ecuadorian Amazon (1 Viewer)

[payaminotom]

Hi all, got a few photos to show you all. I have them all down as Trogon viridis (Green-backed Trogon), but I wanted to double check I haven't overlooked anything. These are three different individuals, photos 1 and 2, photo 3, and photos 4 and 5. Thanks!

 

[THE_FERN]

looks right

 

[payaminotom]

Thanks.

 

[njlarsen]

Agree for the first one, this is pretty clear. The second bird: what is the color of the eye ring?

The female is the one where I have the most doubt: seems there is some white where the yellow belly meets the brownish breast ... If true it would be Violaceous I think.
Niels

 

[payaminotom]

Hi @njlarsen ,
I think that's an interesting point you've raised about the female. Here is a (compressed) video of the third bird (sorry for bad quality). Let me know what you think thanks for sharing your expertise as always!
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With regards to bird 2, heres the complete vid. To me the eyering looks standard off-white, not yellow, but let me know your opinion. Thanks again!
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[payaminotom]

Here's another of bird 2, hope this helps despite the awful compressed quality! Bonus challenge to ID the call in this vid !
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[THE_FERN]

... If true it would be Violaceous I think.
Niels

Amazonian after the split of Violaceous into 3 I think. However, the eye ring does not look yellow to me.

 

[payaminotom]

Amazonian after the split of Violaceous into 3 I think.

Yes that's right!

However, the eye ring does not look yellow to me.

Female Amazonian Trogons have an off-white eye ring, only males have yellow.

 

[THE_FERN]

Yes that's right!

Female Amazonian Trogons have an off-white eye ring, only males have yellow.

[thanks—not looking at a guide right now]

 

[THE_FERN]

[thanks—not looking at a guide right now]

you challenged me so I looked it up. The undertail pattern is better for T. viridis—compare

ML63075971 - Green-backed Trogon - Macaulay Library

Macaulay Library ML63075971; © Leonardo Merçon / Instituto Últimos Refúgios; Espírito Santo, Brazil

macaulaylibrary.org

with

ML23665351 - Amazonian Trogon - Macaulay Library

Macaulay Library ML23665351; © Shailesh Pinto; Madre de Dios, Peru

macaulaylibrary.org

this does in fact match the old Ridgely illustrations.

 

[payaminotom]

Thanks again @THE_FERN, I agree. The bulkier build also edges towards viridis too

 

[AveryBartels]

Seems like the ID has been made but I'll thrown in that I agree with Green-backed (T. viridis)

 

[njlarsen]

I did not have strong opinions and think The Ferns arguments are strong enough.
Niels