WWII Soviet 8x30 binoculars (1 Viewer)

[Sommer1943]

Hello everyone!Please take a look at the WWII Soviet 8x30 binoculars I collected. One of them was manufactured in Moscow Oblast in 1940, and the other four were produced in Novosibirsk in 1942. The military factory code for all products is 69.As far as I know, this model is very rare during the war.I hope to see your similar collections. I would be very grateful if you could send pictures.

 

[Foss]

Nice assortment and photographs. I've always wondered about the markings on my CCCP 8x30s. Can you shed any light please?
Thank you,
Foss

 

[Binastro]

I think it says BIN 8x30, but I have seen slightly different letters.

1964.

I had a girlfriend who was a Russian translator, but when I asked her to translate all the literature that came with Russian binoculars, she said it was Ukrainian.

I thought they were made in Kazan.

But it is likely they were made in several factories, especially in WW2.
Even small workshops.

Spitfires were made in local garages and bus depots around Salisbury, I think, when the Supermarine factory was bombed.

Binoculars and lenses were made in workshops all around Leicester partly for the National Optical Company, N.O.C., an offshoot of TTH.
TTH also made Booth telephoto lenses that were Dallmeyer.

I don't recognise the word at the bottom of the rear plate.

Regards,
B.

 

[Scridifer]

Nice assortment and photographs. I've always wondered about the markings on my CCCP 8x30s. Can you shed any light please?
Thank you,
Foss

BPP8x30

SDELANO V

HTH,

Chris

 

[Binastro]

Thank you Chris.

It could mean.

Created in USSR.

Regards,
B.

P.S.

I had a friend who made wonderful astro photos with a Zeiss Telikon 75cm f/6.3 lens, which was standard on the RMK 30cmx30cm 1930s Zeiss survey camera, which was sometimes made by Emil Busch.

He insisted on calling it a Herstellung lens, as that is what it said on the lens.
It actually means Manufactured by.

These lenses are of the highest Zeiss quality and have an internal venetian blind shutter.

The lenses are unusual in that the rear element is considerably larger than the front.

He also used a TTH 12 inch f/4 lens and the Nikon 30cm f/4 telephoto.
The Nikon lens is complete junk compared to the TTH.
The edge performance of the Nikon is terrible.

 

[Foss]

BPP8x30

SDELANO V

HTH,

Chris

Thanks for the translation Chris. I wonder if Sdelano V is the name of a town or manufacturing plant.

 

[Sommer1943]

Nice assortment and photographs. I've always wondered about the markings on my CCCP 8x30s. Can you shed any light please?
Thank you,
Foss

Please see that the parameters of the following one are the same as yours, the difference is that the production year is 1968. Regards
Magnification, multiple (times): 8
Lens diameter, mm: 30
Exit pupil diameter, mm: 3.75
Removal of the exit pupil, mm: 12
Linear field of view at a distance of 1000 m, m: 150
The coefficient of light amplification: 14.06
Twilight (factor): 15.5
Prism Type: PORRO
Case Material: Metal
Focus: separate
Manufacturer: USSR, KOMZ (Kazan Optical and Mechanical Plant)
Type: without grid
Year of manufacture: 1968；Weight without case, kg: 0.65

 

[Scridifer]

Thank you Chris.

It could mean.

Created in USSR.

Regards,
B.

P.S.

I had a friend who made wonderful astro photos with a Zeiss Telikon 75cm f/6.3 lens, which was standard on the RMK 30cmx30cm 1930s Zeiss survey camera, which was sometimes made by Emil Busch.

He insisted on calling it a Herstellung lens, as that is what it said on the lens.
It actually means Manufactured by.

These lenses are of the highest Zeiss quality and have an internal venetian blind shutter.

The lenses are unusual in that the rear element is considerably larger than the front.

He also used a TTH 12 inch f/4 lens and the Nikon 30cm f/4 telephoto.
The Nikon lens is complete junk compared to the TTH.
The edge performance of the Nikon is terrible.

Thanks for the translation Chris. I wonder if Sdelano V is the name of a town or manufacturing plant.

I can read Cyrillic as I have a basic understanding of Bulgarian, but don't know any Russian! Certainly in Bulgarian 'v' means in, so highly likely Binastro is correct.

Chris

 

[Patudo]

Hi Sommer43 - thanks for sharing those pics. I think 8x30 individual focus binoculars (as a category) were not uncommon in the World War II era, including ones made in Soviet factories: 8x30 and 6x30 seem to be quite favoured for military use. It would be interesting to see how they compared to binoculars made by the other nations.

I have a couple of questions:

- are ex-Soviet binoculars often found in the People's Republic of China? The PRC has its own optical industry of course, and has done for decades, but I was wondering whether many binoculars came from the Soviet Union in the old days (1940 to maybe 1960).

- what's the condition like of the binoculars in your photos: did they need much work (cleaning internal optical services, collimation etc)? How difficult is it to find technicians in the PRC able to work on binoculars? There are not as many technicians with those skills in the West as they used to be.

- the binoculars in your photo look like they don't have anti-reflective coatings... is this correct, or is the colour tint in the coatings not very obvious? Are there services that apply anti-reflective coatings to uncoated glass in the PRC? As I mentioned in your other thread about the Sard 6x42, I remember seeing a photo of one (owned by an owner from the PRC) that looked as though it had been multi-coated.

- some of those binoculars look like they're made from brass, how much would these weigh compared to ones made from aluminium?

Thanks again

Patudo

 

[Sommer1943]

Hi Sommer43 - thanks for sharing those pics. I think 8x30 individual focus binoculars (as a category) were not uncommon in the World War II era, including ones made in Soviet factories: 8x30 and 6x30 seem to be quite favoured for military use. It would be interesting to see how they compared to binoculars made by the other nations.

I have a couple of questions:

- are ex-Soviet binoculars often found in the People's Republic of China? The PRC has its own optical industry of course, and has done for decades, but I was wondering whether many binoculars came from the Soviet Union in the old days (1940 to maybe 1960).

- what's the condition like of the binoculars in your photos: did they need much work (cleaning internal optical services, collimation etc)? How difficult is it to find technicians in the PRC able to work on binoculars? There are not as many technicians with those skills in the West as they used to be.

- the binoculars in your photo look like they don't have anti-reflective coatings... is this correct, or is the colour tint in the coatings not very obvious? Are there services that apply anti-reflective coatings to uncoated glass in the PRC? As I mentioned in your other thread about the Sard 6x42, I remember seeing a photo of one (owned by an owner from the PRC) that looked as though it had been multi-coated.

- some of those binoculars look like they're made from brass, how much would these weigh compared to ones made from aluminium?

Thanks again

Patudo

My English is not good, the following content is for your reference! 1.Although China also developed 6x30 “中正式” military binoculars before 1949, due to the limited level and variety, they were mainly imported from Germany, the United States and other countries, mainly 6x30 and 7x50 types.After 1949, China did not have the ability to mass produce military binoculars, so it imported a large number of military binoculars and equipment from the Democratic Germany, the Soviet Union, and the Czech Republic, which were the leading optical technology in the socialist countries at that time.Among them, Jena in the GDR is the main one.Zeiss 6x30, 8x30 and the Soviet Б6 (6x30) and Б8 (8x30) are mainly medium magnification types, in addition to a small number of Yena Zeiss 7x50, 10x50, 15x50 large-caliber models.In the 1960s, China stereotyped and produced Type 62 8x30, type 8x30 viewing red, and type 63 15x50 military binoculars. These three types of binoculars were manufactured in accordance with the structure and style of similar binoculars of China and the Soviet Union at that time. Wide-angle and large field of view, optical performance and robustness have reached a very high level, and they are still the main equipment of chinese army.It should be noted that these three binoculars are all designed with reference to the drying compartment designed on the 15x50 type of the GDR and this component is also designed. 2.There are service providers for repairing various binoculars in many cities in China. If necessary, they can be mailed to the service provider for repair or cleaning at any time.3.The service of anti-reflective coating is a high-end project, which can be operated by maintenance service providers in Shanghai and other places.4. Binoculars made of brass, such as the Soviet World War II 8x30, have a weight of more than 900 grams.
Let me add: it is completely different from the 6x30. The 8x30 binocular marked with sickle and hammer in WWII is a super rare model. They are currently almost invisible on second-hand websites in Russia. For many years, I have personally only seen 13 pieces in Russia, and only 17 pieces have been found in China. Regards

 

[Trubia26]

There are KOMZ postwar binoculars...wartime has these markings...

 

[lmans66]

I love the hammer/ sickle emblem...lucky you! jim

 

[Sommer1943]

This link includes all manufacturers of Soviet military binoculars before and during the war. The binoculars produced by the factory in Kazan during the war were not marked with sickles and hammers.But the binoculars produced in Krasnogorsk and Novosibirsk are marked with the above.

https://sovietarmorer.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/d0b8d0b4d0b5d0bdd182d0b8d184d0b8d0bad0b0d186d0b8d18f-d181d0bed0b2d0b5d182d181d0bad0b8d185-d0b1d0b8d0bdd0bed0bad0bbd0b5d0b9-d0b2d18b.pdf

 

[Sommer1943]

I love the hammer/ sickle emblem...lucky you! jim

Thank you for your comment.

 

[lmans66]

This link includes all manufacturers of Soviet military binoculars before and during the war. The binoculars produced by the factory in Kazan during the war were not marked with sickles and hammers.But the binoculars produced in Krasnogorsk and Novosibirsk are marked with the above.

https://sovietarmorer.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/d0b8d0b4d0b5d0bdd182d0b8d184d0b8d0bad0b0d186d0b8d18f-d181d0bed0b2d0b5d182d181d0bad0b8d185-d0b1d0b8d0bdd0bed0bad0bbd0b5d0b9-d0b2d18b.pdf

Who would have thought during the war etc...that Russia of all countries would have kept any paperwork / history on jim

 

[Sommer1943]

Who would have thought during the war etc...that Russia of all countries would have kept any paperwork / history on jim

Those binoculars that have experienced the war have their own stories. For example, the scratched sickle and hammer marks you saw were captured by the Germans from the Soviet Army during the war and then used by the Germans. The Germans tried to eliminate the totem of the Bolsheviks, so the marks of two of the five binoculars were scratched by German soldiers.