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First of all a big thanks to Shi Jin for shedding some more light on the nivicola/ma topic. To be continued...!

Just back from a morning trip to Nanhui, Pudong. Rain and relatively strong wind did not help my efforts to find any interesting groppers.

Highlights of the day were:
Chinese Egret 1
Cinnamon Bittern 1
WT Needletail 1
Pechoras Pipit 4
Bluntwinged warbler 1 (singing)

Cheers
jocko
 
There were two male Von Schrenck's Bitterns in the Wenyu paddies (Chaoyang, Beijing) yesterday and the snipe (that shows at least some characteristics of Latham's) was still there.

Shi Jin
 
I'm back in Wuhu.

Definitely a lot less variety here at our plant than there was in September. So far just black drongos (chasing anything that moves), zitting cisticolas, light-vented bulbul, Eurasian tree-sparrow, common pheasant, little egret, Chinese pond-heron, and a lone great egret. Only the pheasant was new for the site.

But in other words, only common stuff.

JH
 
I went to ShenShan Park in Wuhu this morning and picked up a lifer: Tiger Shrike.

The full list from the morning:

Common Pheasant
Greater Coucal
Oriental Turtle Dove
Common Moorhen
Grey-headed Lapwing
Little Grebe
Little Egret
Great Egret
Chinese Pond-heron
Black-crowned Night-heron
Tiger Shrike
Long-tailed Shrike
Black Drongo
Chinese Blackbird
Oriental Magpie-robin
White-cheeked Starling
Crested Myna
Great Tit
Red-rumped Swallow
Collared Finchbill
Light-vented Bulbul
Zitting Cisticola
Masked Laughingthrush
Eurasian Tree-sparrow
White Wagtail
Oriental Greenfinch

Pretty much all that could be expected. Not a bad morning.
 
Sounds like a great morning for an urban Park Geoff.

I'm still waiting for my first Tiger Shrike in Hong Kong . . .

Cheers
Mike
 
Interesting, Dev. I didn't look that closely and pretty much assumed it was greater (it was big). I just figured the range maps in McKinnon and Phillips were "weak."

But I just listened to the calls of both species on xeno-canto. If those calls are representative, it was definitely greater. Also, I was just in Africa in April and when I heard the first one call it reminded me of a Senegal coucal. Deep and hollow-sounding, not high and clicky like the lesser songs, and more than 3 whoops.

Interestingly I saw three of them yesterday: two chasing each other and another in a different place in the same park. With the two chasing each other, I heard them first. One bird was singing and a distant bird was responding on a higher pitch. Possibly this was contact singing between a male and female? But definitely not the lesser song from xeno-canto. When I got close enough to see them it was two birds chasing each other around. This may have been two males (i.e three birds in total), since the response song seemed further away.

The second sighting was in a different place in the park, but again the same song. It could have been one of the birds I saw since it was only a km or so away, but I couldn't say for sure.

JH
 
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Besides the pitta,BCJungle Fly and Orange-headed Thrush etc were seen recently in Nanjing.
Here's a singing BCJungle Fly
 

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I headed south of Wuhu along the Yangtse to the northern edge of SanShan township this morning. This is an area of shallow side lagoons off the main channel of the river. I wanted to see if there was any habitat for reed parrotbill which has been reported in Nanjing. No luck with that species, but I did have some goodies.

I started with a taxi ride to the entrance to the Country Garden Phoenix Hotel. The pond in from of it was quiet save for a single great tit. But the brushy habitat across the road from there had a lot of activity. From the road I had lots of red-billed starlings and light-vented bulbuls and a pair of fly-by yellow bitterns.

I eventually found a road to the other side of that brushy patch through a small settlement. I found a flock of black drongos, my first spotted doves of the trip, more red-billed starlings along with a few white-cheeked starlings and crested mynas. Moving further into the fields I had a good number of long-tailed shrikes, a couple Chinese blackbirds, and a small group of Eurasian magpies. And I heard a distant cuckoo calling.

I kept walking the dikes deeper into the fields to try to get that bird. I eventually came to a creek that I couldn't get across and unfortunately the bird was in a string of woods on the far side of a field on the opposite side of that creek. I kept imitating his call and eventually heard a second bird, but never got either to show. After I got back from the walk I was able to ID the call as an Indian Cuckoo. Also while I was calling for them I head a Eurasian cuckoo, too, and saw intermediate and little egrets. But after a half hour of trying for the cuckoo, I headed back out to the main road.

Back on the river side of the road, there was a small island with some short woods on it. I could see a couple black-crowned night herons going to and from the island, and had three whiskered terns flying over the open water behind it. I found a small trail that I thought was going to get me the length of the island but it only led to one end and ended at the water. On the way I spooked quite a few common moorhens (including some young ones) and a dark heron or bittern that I couldn't ID. At the end of the trail I saw a few red-rumped swallows and heard what I thought was a crake that wouldn't show, but in retrospect was probably a little grebe.

From there I went back to the top of the main river dike. As I walked along that I saw what must have been a hundred or more black-crowned night herons on or above the island including quite a few immatures. Occasionally one of the flying birds would turn out to be a Chinese Pond-heron. Also at one point on the island there was a small grouping of white egrets - littles and intermediates, I guess.

The lagoon was full of common moorhens of various ages, and mixed in wth them were little grebes one of which had a juvenile with it and the occasional yellow bittern which flew by and then ducked into the reedy edge. The only passerines I saw all this time was an occasional long-tailed shrike working the brush on the near shore of the lagoon. But as I got to the end of the wooded part of the island I got my biggest surprise of the day: a lovely pair of pheasant-tailed jacanas flew in and worked the far shoreline. Beautiful birds.

As the trees gave way to reedy islands, the species changed. I started to hear oriental reed-warblers singing, though finding one proved a challenge. More surprising were the cuckoos that occasionally perched on exposed sticks and poles until they were chased away by the warblers. I saw several, but was only able to ID two of them. One was singing which gave it away as a Eurasian cuckoo. Another did a bunch of twists and turns in flight while being chased which helped me see the tail pattern of an Indian cuckoo, my only lifer of the day. The rest were too far away to ID as to species. And through this there were still plenty of moorhens.

Eventually, I came to the bridge back into Wuhu City where the habitat gives way to more industrial shorline. Given that the temperature was now well over 30 degrees and I'd walked 3-4 kilometers without any shade from the sun, I figured I'd call it a day and hopped on a bus back into town.
 
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List for SanShan Township - 10 June 2012

Indian Cuckoo
Eurasian Cuckoo
Oriental Turtle-dove
Spotted Dove
Common Moorhen
Pheasant-tailed Jacana
Whiskered Tern
Little Grebe
Little Egret
Cattle Egret
Intermediate Egret
Chinese Pond-heron
Black-crowned Night-heron
Yellow Bittern
Long-tailed Shrike
Eurasian Magpie
Black Drongo
Chinese Blackbird
Red-billed Starling
White-cheeked Starling
Crested Myna
Great Tit
Red-rumped Swallow
Light-vented Bulbul
Oriental Reed-warbler
Eurasian Tree-sparrow
 
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Tree Sparrow chick?

Jeff, sounds like a good morning! Seeing several cuckoos is especially good. I've yet to see a jacana, so that sounds great too.

Raising my own question here: walking around after the rain today, the tree sparrows were setting up quite the racket, and then I figured out they were feeding fledglings. In another area I head a strange buzzy call and walking around, nearly stepped on an extremely small bird. It was feathered, but looked nothing like a tree sparrow, maybe a little dark spot on the head, but was overall light colored. It seemed much smaller than the fledglings I had seen earlier, but also obviously wasn't flying yet - it hopped quite a bit and maybe had a few flying leaps of 5-6 inches.

I was eager to get away and not draw attention to it and let the parents find it, but waiting a little way apart, I didn't see the parents come and so left. Later I wondered if the coloring and size were really off even for a (quite) immature tree sparrow. Anyone have thoughts on a more likely candidate or know if TS chicks look like that.
 
breeding birds at chongming

I've been at Chongming Island off the coast of Shanghai for the past 2 months researching breeding salt-marsh passerines. Our initial attempts to find Zitting cisticola Cisticola juncidis and Marsh grassbird Locustella pryeri nests in Spartina alterniflora patches was an unmitigated disaster (2 nests in close to a month of searching, both of which were trampled by water buffalo. Ostensibly. Or an incredibly obese weasel, take your pick). We've had better luck working on the edge effect of Spartina on Phragmites patches, mostly focusing on Oriental reed-warbler Acrocephalus orientalis and Reed parrotbill Paradoxornis heudei nests.

Every day that we go nest-searching or -checking ends up being a day full of mucking around in "some lovely filth", and despite wearing hip waders, I almost always end up looking like I've soiled myself, much to the amusement of the local 渔民 (fisherfolk, yumin). But it's great getting to ride around on a scooter and during my time here, I've been able to see some lifers. Not nearly quite as good as my labmates up in Dandong (or ZL in Rudong!), who enjoyed what Terry Townshend termed the "magic bush".

Lifers thus far:
General:
1. Marsh grassbird Locustella pryeri 班背大苇莺 - it's been a real treat getting to see their dizzying display flights
2. Oriental reed warbler Acrocephalus orientalis 东方大苇莺. I was initially worried that we wouldn't see too many of this species, since it was a fairly late arrival. I needn't have bothered. This bird has the delicate, graceful song of a power saw cutting through plywood.
April 16-ish: Narcissus flycatcher (male) Ficedula narcissina, Blue-and-White flycatcher (male, only a brief glimpse, gone before I could get my camera, the SOB) Cyanoptila cyanomelana, Asian brown flycatcher
April 31:
1. (not a lifer, but a first sighting for 2012): Brown shrike Lanius cristatus 红尾伯劳
2. 100+ wood sandpipers Tringa glareola 林鹬 (right? can't be bothered to check)
3. my first Chinese pond heron Ardeola bacchus 池鹭 of the year (in Shanghai), in breeding plumage too
May 2 (very foggy day):
1. Eurasian hobby 燕隼 Falco subbuteo
May 15:
In the wheat/rice/aquaculture ponds near Dongtan, which were quite helpfully being tilled about by large tractors that attracted huge flocks of Cattle egrets in breeding plumage (not a year or life lifer, but exciting to see nonetheless), Caspian terns, and a few White-winged terns.
May 16:
1. The arrival of the Eurasian cuckoo Cuculus canorus 大杜鹃, several of which have parasitized some of our nests.
2. Chinese yellow bitterns Ixobrychus sinensis 黄苇yan, close to the Big Rock 大石头 entrance at Dongtan. Looks like they're breeding in the relatively pure, uninvaded Phragmites patches. We've found a couple of ground nests with large white eggs. Perhaps theirs? Also perhaps that of a Common moorhen or Eurasian coot?
May 29:
1. In the farmland near our field dorm - a few token Red-rumped swallows Hirundo daurica 金腰燕 flitting about the much more common Barn swallows.
2. Later that day at Dongtan--a flock of (what I was pretty sure were) White-winged starlings Sturnus sinensis 灰背椋鸟. The MacKinnon guide suggests that it only occurs as north as Fujian though...
June 3:
A rather flamboyant Lesser coucal Centropus bengalensis 小鸦鹃 making its low, hollow, watery burp of a call.
June 12:
A lone gray-headed lapwing Vanellus cinereus 灰头麦鸡, followed by 3 more on 6/18 near the Big Rock at Dongtan.

We're up to a grand total of 35 nests, which isn't brilliant, but not bad for only 2 people. We've also been told that nest searching in salt marshes usually produces pretty low nest numbers overall so hopefully we're not some desperately, pathetically slow slackers.

Shanghai-area birders---and the rest of you lot---please feel free to holler if you're ever heading out to Chongming. We've got nesting Kentish plovers and Black-winged stilts as well as all of our passerine nests amidst the mud, glorious mud.

Pictures attached of various birds. I'm hoping I can attach some videos I recorded of Oriental reed warbler and Reed parrotbill chicks, which are adorable and helpless and basically flap-flapping depositories of poop. Sometimes nicely wrapped in a fecal sac, other times...not.
 

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MOAAAR pictures

the tractor in question that got me in the middle of a flock of terns and a bunch of amused fishermen.

Also, does anyone know if there's an online repository for bird videos (similar in spirit to xeno-canto/AvoCet)? I reckon that our videos of nestlings might be helpful somewhere in the interwebs.

Finally--any takers on the unknown butterfly? I saw a similar one in Taiwan. And I think it was something like Mormon swallowtail butterfly something something.
 

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Oriental reed warbler chicks

Unfortunately, all of my videos are in .AVI format. Can't be bothered to convert it to MPEG or any of the other compliant formats. Attached are photos of Oriental reed warbler chicks and nests.

Photos of Reed parrotbill chicks coming up at some (distant) point in the future.
 

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I headed west of Nanjing Sunday morning with Colin Clark for an attempt at Fairy Pitta. I'll spoil the surprise right off the bat...no sign of a pitta, but I did see 3 lifers and Colin saw 6, so it was still a productive and enjoyable morning. But I guess I'll just have to go back next year!

We'd arranged for a taxi driver to meet us at our downtown hotel at 4 AM. We all assembled promptly and were off on time, but right after we crossed the river we stopped...to ask for directions. The driver had no idea where we were heading other than it was on the far side of the river! And I think the only reason he knew that was because of a map that Colin had printed off for him. After another directions stop we ended up on a winding single lane road in a small town, which added Eurasian tree-sparrow. The driver stopped every few minutes confirming that we were on the right track even though there were no turns.

Eventually we came to a main road, crossed that, and after a few minutes heading uphill spooking Chinese blackbirds off the road, we were at the temple gate. We drove through that and continued to a fork in the road. The left fork leads to a small parking area at the foot of a flight of stairs. The right hand fork leads past a pair of stone lions to an upper courtyard on the right (east) side of the main temple. We went to the upper lot, and as soon as we got out of the car we saw a large flock of azure-winged magpies.

We headed to the woods on the left (west) side of the temple which is where the pittas have been reported and heard a lot of birds. On that side of the temple, there is a large depression between the temple and the main hillside. The floor of that depression is covered with a carpet of thick, low (30-40 cm high) plants with scattered very tall trees mixed in. On the far side of the depression, thick impenetrable brush goes up the mountainside – perfect pitta habitat.

We found a single person path that ran along the uphill side of the depression then downhill between the depression and the mountainside. At the lower end it comes out in a clearing at the top of a wide path that leads down to the lower parking area. We found light-vented bulbul and vinous-throated parrotbills along the path, and heard a very loud, metallic whistling call from a bush on the hillside. We tried for a while to find that bird, but when we got close it stopped calling. So we pulled out the iPod and iPhone and started trying for the pitta, focusing on the thick brush on the hillside.

We worked that little trail for quite a while without success. Eventually, I heard a few Swinhoe’s minivets in the canopy and started paying attention to them, finally getting a less than satisfactory view near the clearing. At this point we started paying attention to the other birds we were seeing. Colin called in a hwamei, a lifer for him. I tried calling in a couple of calling large hawk-cuckoos, but they stayed put.

We then went back to the tall trees in the depression because that’s where the action was. Colin found a beautiful white, male Asian paradise flycatcher with incredibly long tail streamers and I picked out a yellow-rumped flycatcher. We then found ashy drongo (white faced) and black bulbul (white headed) and a woodpecker we agreed was gray-capped pygmy woodpecker. Colin found a flock of Japanese white-eyes with a smaller LBJ mixed in. He eventually ID’ed that as brownish-flanked bush-warbler after we got home. I also got some better views of the Swinhoe’s minivets. The last bird in that area came shooting in around our ankles. Colin got on it briefly and Id’ed it as a forest wagtail. I was able to get it to perch up and sing because that was a lifer for me.

After that it was back to the path and the pitta vigil. Every sound we heard was met with “Was that it?” but nothing matched. We went back and forth on that path trying for the pitta and mixing in a couple of other species that each of us needed, but nothing responded. Then we discovered a second path that lead up the mountain side to the top of the ridge. We worked that path for the next 45 minutes or so, but all we turned up was a family of hwameis with a begging youngster, a calling Asian koel, a great tit and several of our mystery calls. Colin even tried recording that call on his phone and playing it back, but even that didn’t get our mystery bird to show himself.

Finally we headed back down to the temple. As we rested at the top of the stairs, Colin spotted a couple of gray-headed greenfinches, a lifer for him. Eventually we decided that having tried unsuccessfully for four hours, not to mention that our hotel stopped serving breakfast at 10 AM, it was time to give up. We gave the pitta one last call just in case, then headed back to Nanjing. We had a Chinese pond-heron and a couple Eurasian magpies along the way.

And for the record, the mystery call turned out to be brownish-flanked bush-warbler. Thanks McMadd for that ID.
 
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Saw a new bird at our plant here in North Wuhu - Eurasian cuckoo. At least one calling and a pair flying around.

Also the common pheasant seen three weeks ago was being vocal again today.

It must be the lower temperatures - mid 20's versus mid 30's.
 
Great to get an insight into the domestic economy of the ORW, and the habitat in general - thanks for these really interesting shots.

Mike
 
whoops! sorry. referenced the wrong birder---I think it was actually Tom (aka Dongbei?) who headed out to Dandong while my labmates were there. Am ridiculously jealous of you lot seeing 4 spoonys. How marvelous! Though just 2 days ago, I was lucky enough to see two Black-faced spoonbills near the big rock at Dongtan. Pictures coming up...soon...maybe.

And MK--thanks for the nice comment! I'll try to get the reed parrotbill photos edited as well. We also have some unknown waterbird nests (potentially Common moorhen or Eurasian coot, as well as maybe Little/yellow bittern Ixobrychus sinensis (I think) or some other unknown fellow).
 
falcon spec. breeding in Shenyang city?

Hello,

I am visiting my family-in-law in Shenyang for the third time (second day, 18days more to go this time). Next to the obligated visits to family and shopping I like to keep my eyes open for birds, butterflies and other wildlife. Although for the moment it is not so interesting being in a city centre. I see and hear more birds in cages than real city birds, which are qt the moment just birds I know from Europe. Although I must say seeing tree sparrows and barn swallows in one of the biggest cities I have ever seen is always like a 'parallel dimension' experience for a European.

Just one real intriguing sighting for me was a falcon at nightfall today. Just saw two flashes, I can not even give an impression of size, but I also heard him call, which should indicate a breeding pair? Does anybody know what kind of falcon it could be?

I hope to do a real birding trips in China in the future, but at the moment it is just birding on the way. From Tuesday we will travel to the tourist sites in Yunnan for one week. I definitely hope to increase my modest Chinese list of 42. In 10some days I will post my sightings on Observado, you can check them here. If I have lists of particular areas I will probably also add them to cnbirder and have a short note on this forum. But don't expect too much as it will all be birding 'on the way'.
 
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