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Old Friday 9th February 2018, 18:00   #1
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Larus fuscus fuscus? (Israel)

Hi all. I spotted two of these darker-plumaged gulls today.

From what I understand, the Heuglini species\subspecies is another option, though I'm not sure these two are large enough to qualify for a Heuglin.

Would appreciate any opinion or input on this. Thanks in advance.

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Old Friday 9th February 2018, 20:16   #2
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I'm wondering if L.f.intermedius might be a contender (images 1 and 3), as there appears to be contrast between primaries and mantle, L.f.fuscus I believe, would be continuously black to the upper-parts?

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Old Friday 9th February 2018, 20:45   #3
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Good point, Ken. The individual on the left in the first picture is also lighter plumaged than the one on the right.
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The ones with ylg-like tone of upperparts are steppe gulls. The darker ones are heuglin's
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