Norweigan Blue? Surely the beautiful plumage is good enough...... unless the bird is dead.....
Id just send it back, if they will take it.....don't think you will be happy with all that constant focusing with the IF even if it is slightly sharper....you will never be able to have it perfectly focused on the bird anyhow... unless the bird is dead.....
Exactly. It is pretty cool as a collector's item but not as a birding binocular with IF focus. Send it back and get an 8x30 W Habicht. Best birding binoculars. Those big rubber jobs are for wartime. There ain't going to be any birds shooting at you and you ain't going to be crawling around in any ditches avoiding gunfire.Id just send it back, if they will take it.....don't think you will be happy with all that constant focusing with the IF even if it is slightly sharper....you will never be able to have it perfectly focused on the bird anyhow... unless the bird is dead.....
The 7x42 GA and 10x40 GA are for wartime. They know the 8x30 W is the model the birders are going to buy and use because it is lighter and has a bigger FOV. Craps you don't need all that rubber for looking at some birds! Those GA's would survive a nuclear attack. If you lose your gun you could beat your enemy over the head with the GA and kill them. I am surprised they don't have a bayonet attachment.:-ODenco you may have right but if they still make the 7x42 and 10x40 GA , then what is the reason to abandon 8x30. ?
Norweigan Blue? Surely the beautiful plumage is good enough...
...Mike
Exactly. It is pretty cool as a collector's item but not as a birding binocular with IF focus. Send it back and get an 8x30 W Habicht. Best birding binoculars. Those big rubber jobs are for wartime. There ain't going to be any birds shooting at you and you ain't going to be crawling around in any ditches avoiding gunfire.
When you go to IWA today and meet Swaro. Please ask specifically what the first letter of the serial numbers in the 8x30W DF mean.. because based on the previous thread. The Saudi military ordered them prior to year 2010 starting with the "S" in the serial number. Later they made DFs for the civilians with letter "B". But the posters in the old thread assume "S" has the reticle while "B" has none. But now I have a "B" with reticle (STP). So did Swaro make "B" with reticle adding designation STP and are these for civilians use only or did they use "B" for both civilians and military. This is the critical factors to ask.
I guess they make better tolerances for the military version like strictly following 115/D resolving power and 240/D for the civilians.
I'm deciding the nature of my 8x30W DF and need to decide fast what to do with it before Binostore would even refuse an exchange as more days elapse. Thanks so much.
typo
Mine has# B7929.... and I got it delivered about 5 years ago straight from Austria. It has a reticle in the right tube and came without a bag in the normal box that only included a small green canvas belt with no brand name on it. No manual or guarantee card.
It is my "comparison bin" and so far it beat the sh.... out of any other bin/brand.
It will never leave! He feels a little bit alone. A little sister would be nice, so.......
Could you provide me/us with a little bit more details about 115/D against 240/D resolving power?
Maybe Dale Forbes could step in and provide some info.
Jan
Jan, is the reason the military version is optical better simply because they tested every pair to be sure there is no lemon.. or did they put more coating or glass? But we know the optimum coatings and glass already used in the Habicht 8x30. So how can they improve it further (when they can't even solve the veiling glare which I notice obviously compared to other binos.
What is meant by "WSP"?
I have an 10x56 victory fl , i had an 8x32 swarovision, 8x30 habicht leather model, so i know what extreme resolution means, and if this habicht GA IF is better in terms of resolution and contrast : WOW !! Probably will be my binoculars for the rest of my life
Birding just today, I noticed that the very late model Swedish military IF 8x30 Habicht to be slightly sharper and brighter than my equivalent standard 8x30 Habicht.
Is this a coincidence...just an on the day thing....or is there superiority in the IF design?
Rathaus. from what i remember i think it's exactly this post from rathaus where i read for the first time about the superiority of the military version versus the civilian model
115/D is the resolving power of telescope lens. It has higher spec compared to binocular which is 240/D. So with your 10x40mm and assuming 115/D would result in 3.83 arcsecond resolving power.. while mainstream binos would have 8 arcsecond resolving power. So if your 10x40mm is twice better in resolving power to normal binos. Then it should resolve more. Have you only tested it in resolving double stars? Were you saying the standard 10x40mm can't resolve some stars??
About my Df 8x30mm with serial number #B82.. it is made in 2012. At 6pm almost nighttime, it can still resolve and show good contrast viewing the wall textures of the neighbors.. whereas other binos would no longer show any contrast. If I exchange it to the standard black should Binostore allows. I don't want the standard one to show less detail than this.
Hope you can get ideas from the IWA you will attend if these were indeed military Habichts or Saudi civilian hunters Habicht and whether the civilian version is also Milspec optical tolerant. Thank you.
AFAIK (but I'll ask) the military version of the Habicht serie is not for sale via any dealer, only by Governments. Saoudi and/or Chinese channels are nice talks, but I don't buy that.
Jan