black kite 1964
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A reasonable reason not to release news.
A reasonable reason not to release news.
Not sure if you have to be a subscriber, but RBA published this on 28th July:
http://www.rarebirdalert.co.uk/RealData/Whooper_Swans_breed_in_southern_England.asp
Basically, one was injured and the other stayed (as they bond for life) and they bred!
bins, scopes, pagers, barbours, wellies, beards...
Sadly can't add much to the debate, other than that there aren't many RNPs ringed anyway and the recoveries they generate are few and far between - unlike the ringing and finding locations though, which aren't far between! Most movements seem pretty local and all have been in the London/Surrey area:
http://blx1.bto.org/ring/countyrec/resultsall/rec7120all.htm
As for the Bonelli's sp, I saw a tail of what might have been the bird and heard several calls similar to Western. This one was definitely NOT playing ball.
Just in case it does play ball tomorrow morning has it been seen in the wood just south-west of Overstrand at grid ref 23,40?
Any info on where to park or is it obvious once you get there?
Could be more to be found on the coast tomorrow looking at the overnight weather, I'll be bush whacking between Winterton and Waxham, got to get my find of the year sooner or later....Autumn's here
As another birder from London with reasonable experience of parakeets (they appear to be expanding slowly into NE London), I disagree - it's really not that simple.
How would you eliminate Alexandrine Parakeet on a brief flyover view, however familiar with RNP you may be? And yes, I have seen the odd one in London - various escaped parrots and parakeets have been noted associating with roosting flocks. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were a few breeding pairs in the southeast either.
In Norfolk, where (I think I'm right in saying) there is no known breeding population of RNP, the likelihood of single escaped birds is relatively high compared to wanderers from feral populations further south, and therefore getting the precise ID correct is important for the record.
No, its warren woods in cromer. grid ref TG228418. Between the east side of town and the lighthouse. Take overstrand road out of cromer then left on to the warren, park around the T junction, turn left at the T and walk towards the cliffs. Probably best to stand at the lookout in the north east corner of the wood accessed from the coastal cliff path.
The greenish was losely associating with the tit flock but was also seen several times in the large holm oak to the west of the look out, singing on and off.
The Bonelli's came in off the sea, was seen for a couple of minutes around midday from the cliff path on the edge of the wood, then again briefly from the lookout around 2pm. Its hard work but well worth it !!
How would you eliminate Alexandrine Parakeet on a brief flyover view, however familiar with RNP you may be?
Fine if you're fully familiar with the range of variation in both species' calls, which I doubt if many of us are, even those of us who have heard a few Ring-necked Parakeets. Also not a lot of good if you don't hear it, such as if you're driving along the A47 when it flies over the car.How about different flight call?
Do you mean the pink on the scapulars? If not then that's a feature I wasn't aware of but I can't see it in photos of Alexandrine; assuming you do mean the scapulars then surely that wouldn't be a whole lot of use on a brief flyover view? Scapulars aren't very easy to see from underneath, in my experience.The pink wing bar?
The intolerance of temperatures below 5 degrees c?
Or possibly the fact that P. krameri has a total UK population of 30,000 plus and the Alexandrine parakeet has a single breeding colony in the UK with very low numbers?
How about different flight call? The pink wing bar? The intolerance of temperatures below 5 degrees c? Or possibly the fact that P. krameri has a total UK population of 30,000 plus and the Alexandrine parakeet has a single breeding colony in the UK with very low numbers?
From the NARVOS site: "Bird flew over the A149 at Kings Lynn (5.00pm this afternoon) which has me completely perplexed.
Appeared dark grey/brown in colour, large rotund body, appeared short necked and relatively short but wide winged. Bigger than a pheasant but moderate wing beats (much slower than game bird but not as slow as heron). Appeared to come up off the drain to the east of the road and followed the line of the drain at a height of about 50m........."
From the NARVOS site: "Bird flew over the A149 at Kings Lynn (5.00pm this afternoon) which has me completely perplexed.
Appeared dark grey/brown in colour, large rotund body, appeared short necked and relatively short but wide winged. Bigger than a pheasant but moderate wing beats (much slower than game bird but not as slow as heron). Appeared to come up off the drain to the east of the road and followed the line of the drain at a height of about 50m........."