Can you add Black Swan to a UK List? (1 Viewer)

[claire78]

I swa a Black Swan yesterday 'in the wild' with a large group of Mute Swans and geese. I know it's not a UK species but can you add it to a UK List? Or do I simply ignore it?!? Technically it was out their living it rough in the wild, even though it may have started life in a collection somewhere!!!
CLaire

 

[scampo]

So far as I know, the black swan is not accepted on the list of British species, Claire - but it would still count in your personal list! There are many escapes and feral birds in this category. Here's a link to the full British List:

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1474-919X.2006.00603.x?cookieSet=1

 

[claire78]

Thanks Steve!

 

[Ruby]

Hi Claire,

As Steve says, it is not yet accepted by the BOU so can't be ticked (assuming that you want to stay strictly in line with their list..)

There seems to be quite a few of these about, and I've seen several broods of young over the years, so there is the possibility that one day they will be adjudged to have reached a self-sustaining population and the BOU will accept them.

When this happens, you can then retrospectively add them to your list - this is known as an 'armchair tick'!


Wacky eh!..... Ruby

 

[Conorbirda2]

You may as well add it to your list. People tick anything on here regardless of what status it holds on the official lists. And if you comment on it you get the 'List police' accusations! I agree with Ruby above though. Black Swan will probably have the same credentials as, say, Ring-necked Parakeet. I'm sitting firmly in my armchair!!

 

[Steve Lister]

Hi Claire,

As Steve says, it is not yet accepted by the BOU so can't be ticked (assuming that you want to stay strictly in line with their list..)


When this happens, you can then retrospectively add them to your list - this is known as an 'armchair tick'!


Wacky eh!..... Ruby

I don't think it would be a case of ticking retrospectively: if you are that bothered by officialdom then you would only tick established escapes from the date of the decision.

Anyway, your county recorder will probably be keeping a database of escaped species and it is worth sending the record in along with all those of wild birds.

Steve

 

[claire78]

Anyway, your county recorder will probably be keeping a database of escaped species and it is worth sending the record in along with all those of wild birds.

Steve

Thanks Steve - I submit all my records on birdtrack and it has Black Swan on there so I assume someone is monitoring them across the UK. And I have added it to my UK and life list as yah boo to the official list - I'm going to have my list which can contain what I see!

Thanks everyone for your comments. At least I now understand the term 'armchair tick' too!
CLaire
:bounce:

 

[Derbyfella]

Is this still the case please?

Saw at least one Black Swan at Slapton on Wednesday (likely two but on separate occasions a couple of minutes apart but with more than swimming distance between them.
They aren't in my excel spreadsheet (cant remember where i got that from) - i also dont have bearded vulture so added that myself even though i missed it twice and never actually got to see it last year

thanks in advance

 

[James Lowther]

Black Swan is (still) not on the British list. So, most British birders would not tick it. However as always it’s “your list, your rules”

Cheers

James

 

[McHeath]

I check the German sightings daily on ornitho. de; a couple of days ago someone had proudly listed a sighting of two peacocks. Location: a zoo 😂

 

[Derbyfella]

😂