New binoculars from Swarovski: Range 32 and new phone adapter (1 Viewer)

[GrampaTom]

Hi Tom,

For what little we know about the EL Range x42 internals and electronics, see posts #5 and 6 at:
Updated Swarovski Range and CL pockets.

The link in post #5 regarding transmission shows that - depending on the way the electronics are incorporated into a design -
they may have a significantly adverse effect on transmission. It draws from Gij's extensive body of tests.

And for two images comparing the external dimensions of the EL SV x42 and the original EL Range x42,
see post #251 at: 6 January 2022 - New Leica announcement
(along with post #241 there are also images of other RF binoculars compared).


John

Thanks John,
I saw this yesterday, Meopta Optika LR VS Leica Geovid R Binoculars - Rokslide I had no idea of the optical issues that come with Range finding binoculars... Curious theres a color tint diff top to bottom within a tube with these?

Im interested in what I now think I understand is the "fin" - had no clue of this either. Seems something that would have to be handled to understand its impact on handling.

The differences described in your attached articles about the 42s and now here with the 32s suggests things are happening at a very fast rate and are rather material in optics, electronics and handling.

T

 

[GrampaTom]

Fins!
a) original EL Range 42, from a 2021 eBay listing by ap104
b) current EL Range TA 42, from a 2023 eBay listing by waytoomuchstuffid

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Ach!! Thanks. I had no idea... Not sure where I got this idea... is the new 32 fin on one side only?

 

[tenex]

I was going to say "so curious now to have a 32mm Range model after killing off the EL 32" and then read this...

I suspect we will shortly see a 32mm EL which will be similar in appearance (and which will correct the obvious 32mm gap in the current EL assortment)

A nice thought, but how do you suppose your hypothetical new EL 32 (which doesn't look like an EL) would fit into their current lineup better than the old one did?

 

[Maljunulo]

I’m confused.

They discontinued the 8X32 EL, and they are going to introduce a new 8x32 EL?

 

[John A Roberts]

A week on from the initial announcement, I had a look to see if more information, especially any user impressions or reviews
had been added to the 'net.

The one thing of interest that I did find is an image more clearly showing the underside, with the fin only on the right hand housing:




John

 

[GrampaTom]

A week on from the initial announcement, I had a look to see if more information, especially any user impressions or reviews
had been added to the 'net.

The one thing of interest that I did find is an image more clearly showing the underside, with the fin only on the right hand housing:

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John

Thanks for confirming that John. Wonder if that makes one feel lopsided?

 

[John A Roberts]

Hi Tom,

Hmmm

Well there is already a lot of lopsided holding going on out there, that would be useable with the new model!



Top L to R:
a) Prong vs b) Trident vs c) Fork

Bottom L to R:
d) Winston (Churchill)
e) Ernst (Leitz II, as in a common way to hold a rangefinder camera)
f) Gerd (from here on the forum)


Sources:
a) and c) Swarovski Optik
b) Review of SWAROVSKI OPTIK’s new FieldPro package — Batumi Raptor Count.
d) no longer available at: BWD Magazine – Birds Wonder Delight
e) Partners - Yves ADAMS


- - - -
As shown in the original Swarovski patent for the rangefinder binocular technology,
the laser portion was contained in left barrel, and the display portion in the right one
e.g. 14 is the laser transmitter, 21 the laser receiver and 24 the control unit;
and 25 is the display element and 26 the display optics.



So the more compact arrangement on the new EL Range 32 (presumedly combining the laser and display functions on one side),
may raise the possibility of an update to the 42?
Though Swarovski might wait to see user reaction to the asymmetrical shape of the 32 before proceeding with the 42.


John

 

[GrampaTom]

Hi Tom,

Hmmm

Well there is already a lot of lopsided holding going on out there, that would be useable with the new model!

View attachment 1530770

Top L to R:
a) Prong vs b) Trident vs c) Fork

Bottom L to R:
d) Winston (Churchill)
e) Ernst (Leitz II, as in a common way to hold a rangefinder camera)
f) Gerd (from here on the forum)


Sources:
a) and c) Swarovski Optik
b) Review of SWAROVSKI OPTIK’s new FieldPro package — Batumi Raptor Count.
d) no longer available at: BWD Magazine – Birds Wonder Delight
e) Partners - Yves ADAMS


- - - -
As shown in the original Swarovski patent for the rangefinder binocular technology,
the laser portion was contained in left barrel, and the display portion in the right one
e.g. 14 is the laser transmitter, 21 the laser receiver and 24 the control unit;
and 25 is the display element and 26 the display optics.

View attachment 1530771

So the more compact arrangement on the new EL Range 32 (presumedly combining the laser and display functions on one side),
may raise the possibility of an update to the 42?
Though Swarovski might wait to see user reaction to the asymmetrical shape of the 32 before proceeding with the 42.


John

Haha. Since I already contort things in ways like that, mebbe wouldn't notice... Your last paragraph makes a lot o sense

 

[John A Roberts]

Following on from post #25, a more detailed view of the 'mono-fin' on the underside of the EL Range 32:




John


p.s. The original announcement by Swarovski of the EL Range 32 was in late August, with availability from October.
So hopefully we'll soon see some user reports.

 

[quincy88]

Following on from post #25, a more detailed view of the 'mono-fin' on the underside of the EL Range 32:

View attachment 1535975

Thanks for shuffling this back to the top John A Roberts. Deleting the thread I started earlier today.

 

[skytop]

I do not want binoculars that have on-off switches and batteries. Binoculars are OPTICAL instruments and not electrical devices.