Some Italian birds (1 Viewer)

[Espen]

pic 1&2: audouins gulls?
pic 3: pallid or common?(only pic I have on dark background, looks like a common to me)
pic 4: juvenile roller? flight was perfect and I can't think what else it could be, just the underparts seemed the wrong colour

cheers

espen:t:

 

[Jacana]

When were these taken?

Gulls may be unidentifiable, but I'd say that they are Yellow-legged

 

[Espen]

When were these taken?

Gulls may be unidentifiable, but I'd say that they are Yellow-legged

gulls were in bay of naples, mergellina, they seemed the most audouin like out of all the yl gulls

swift and roller were pomigliano (naples area)

a link to trip report if anyone is interested: http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?p=2417941#post2417941

 

[Jacana]

I'd say that juvenile Roller is unlikely at this time of year too

 

[lou salomon]

impossible to id the gulls, but 1 looks better for YLG.
3 looks more like a house martin than a swift.
4 photo could be deceiving but it looks a bit like a young roller. but bill looks fine, so maybe blue rock thrush.

 

[Espen]

impossible to id the gulls, but 1 looks better for YLG.
3 looks more like a house martin than a swift.
4 photo could be deceiving but it looks a bit like a young roller. but bill looks fine, so maybe blue rock thrush.

swift is definately a swift, and the roller bird was too big for brt, size of a small jackdaw, and flight was spot on from the description I read of roller

 

[Espen]

here's a blurred, uncropped picture that may give a better impression of size?(i think that whatever it's sat on makes it look smaller)

 

[claudio93]

from the picture I would say starling dimension more or less... anyway agree on blue rock thrush

 

[apbarr]

from the picture I would say starling dimension more or less... anyway agree on blue rock thrush

So do I

 

[Parula6]

That sure is a martin-ish looking swift, but I'm not familiar with European swifts. Which species looks like a martin?

 

[Microtus]

That sure is a martin-ish looking swift, but I'm not familiar with European swifts. Which species looks like a martin?

Common, Pallid, and Alpine have that shape.

 

[Espen]

another pic of the swift which it looks more like a swift

also the other bird seemed so un-rock thrush like when I saw it, it didn't even enter my mind, seemed so much more bulky, so I have doubts about it being either, but i can't think of anything else it could be!

 

[Stuart Darbyshire]

you can't id the swift - common vs. pallid is hard enough with clear pics to be fair

if I had to guess - I'd say Common as it looks very dark

 

[Espen]

you can't id the swift - common vs. pallid is hard enough with clear pics to be fair

if I had to guess - I'd say Common as it looks very dark

I was just showing that it was in fact a swift in the second pic, and was pretty sure it was common as i couldn't see a defined dark patch on the back(and of course pallid being less common)

cheers, guess thay can't be id'd definitely

 

[pietrod]

Most probably YLG.

Sure Blue Rock thrush!

best

 

[Simon Wates]

Definitely Blue Rock Thrush - I see them a number of times every week for years and this one doesn't look strange at all to me - shape and blue crown with darker shadow along the eye being spot on. The swift is unidentifiable but Common or Pallid. The gulls on the water do seem to have rather solid black wing-tips so could just possibly be Audouin's though would have been more identifiable in the field than in the photo.