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USA Hawk ID (1 Viewer)

mali

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North American Hawk, pic taken in North Carolina in August...Some on another forum have suggested Rough-legged Hawk (Buteo lagopus)...Ideas please.
 

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It's not a rough-legged. No dark patch at wrist.

It's not a red-tailed either. No patagial bar, no belly band.

It's a juvenile red-shouldered, or maybe broad-winged. I think I can see "windows" at the base of the primaries so I'll go with red-shouldered.
 
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It's not a rough-legged. No dark patch at wrist.

It's not a red-tailed either. No patagial bar, no belly band.

It's a juvenile red-shouldered. You can even see the "windows" at the base of the primaries if you look closely.

Agree with nartreb; it is definitely a young Red-shouldered Hawk. Note also the dark streaking on the breast. Red-tails have an unmarked breast.
 
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There is a juvenile Red-shouldered Hawk pictured in Plate #222 in Wheeler's "Raptors of Eastern North America" that is marked very much like this one although the "windows" at the base of its primaries are somewhat more dominant.

"Brown head and throat. Broad streaks or blobs on underparts. Leg feathers always unmarked. Tawny crescent shaped window on base of outer 6 primaries. Inner primaries and all secondaries barred. Numerous narrow, pale gray tail bands; often rufous bands on basal area."

Bob
 
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And another for immature red-shouldered.

The long wings fit shoulder better than red-tail. The streaking is on the upper breast, not the belly. The barring on the tail is far too strong for an immature red-tail. And you can see the crescent windows - on a juvie red-tail they'd be square.
 
Thanks all for your time, comments and opinions...I guess I will settle for juvenile Red-shouldered Hawk then.
 
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