What did I miss? Terra ED??? (1 Viewer)

[NDhunter]

The blister pack to end all blister packs!:t:

A proper case would be better.

I am thinking, hoping, |:S| this case will be a short lived experiment for Zeiss.

I do not like being nicked $10. for a case after I have purchased a
binocular.

Zeiss, if you are watching, spend some effort in making the binocular better,
as in QC, collimation is necessary, packaging is just throwaway.

A case is part of the optics purchase, should be included, and is important.

Jerry

 

[Chosun Juan]

Agreed :t:

The "display case" seems a bit "kitsch" .... a bit "try-hard" ..... a bit "naff" .....

I can understand putting a DUCATI in a glass cabinet in your loungeroom - but a Terra ED in faux casing?!! :h?: |=@|

Better a "Tartan" patterned field case to match the "Volksbin" |^| image, or a rugged "Disposal" type quasi-military (or safari) style field case for those that have found a new "beater" bin! ||



Chosun :gh:

 

[Chosun Juan]

Per Zeiss Customer Support, the prism coatings are di-electric. I posted about it in the more current active thread discussing the now released units.

http://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2776341&postcount=147

Thanks Bruce :t:

Did Zeiss release any further information on exactly what di-electric coatings are used - ie. number of layers?

(a fairly important detail, since di-electric could range from 2 layers +).
Zen uses 40 layer in their ED3, Opticron 64 layer in their "Oasis" coating, likewise for Swift in their "Cold Fusion Technology" coatings, and I believe the same 64 layers for high end Vortex lines, and likely the Zeiss Conquest HD too (references for these last 3 appreciated as I've misplaced the lynx!) :cat:

It's interesting that Eitan has said on another thread that brightness between the silver-coated Bushnell Legend Ultra HD and the di-electric coated Zeiss Terra ED is "roughly equal"

Perhaps the lack of a mention of "di-electric coatings" in marketing blurbs is an attempt to distance the Terra ED from the Conquest HD ??? :h?:


Chosun :gh:

 

[BruceH]

Thanks Bruce :t:

Did Zeiss release any further information on exactly what di-electric coatings are used - ie. number of layers?
...........................
Chosun :gh:

Sorry, but there was no more detail on the coating. The next sentence said he could not reveal much else. I do not know if that is because it is proprietary or he did not know.

I would like to see to see a new Terra. There is a birding festival the middle of August in Tucson, AZ that I may attend. All of the elite are signed up (Swarovski, Nikon, Leica), but NO Zeiss is currently listed. What's up with that, especially considering all the new models they have introduced in the last year or so (ED, HT Terra). Vortex is not listed either, yet they have a rep living in the Phoenix metro area, about an hour and a half away. Opticron is listed and I am looking forward to that since I have never seen their products.

http://www.tucsonaudubon.org/expo.html

 

[ceasar]

It's neck strap is excellent. It is the same as the one on my 7 x 42 Victory FL. The rain guard is excellent; a close copy of the one on the 7x42. The objective covers supplied are a negative and there is no reason to put them on the binocular, but the ones supplied with the 7x42 fit the TerraED.

After about 6 weeks of almost daily use, and taking the time to compare them to my 2 Swarovski SCLs and my CL, my guess is that the brightness curve of the TerraED peaks closer to the red end of the spectrum than the violet end.

As for handling veiling glare when looking towards the southeast in morning and in midmorning to noon sunlight; it is better than the 8 x 30 SLC and 8 x 30 CL and just as good as the 7 x 42 SLC, Zeiss 7 x 42 Victory FL and better than my Leica 7 x 42 Trinovid BN. It's eyecups also do a good job in shielding me from sun glare when the sun is down low and behind me.

Bob

 

[Alexis Powell]

It's interesting that Eitan has said on another thread that brightness between the silver-coated Bushnell Legend Ultra HD and the di-electric coated Zeiss Terra ED is "roughly equal"

How do you know that the Bushnell is silver coated and not dielectric?

--AP

 

[mjensen6577]

A proper case would be better.

I am thinking, hoping, |:S| this case will be a short lived experiment for Zeiss.

I do not like being nicked $10. for a case after I have purchased a
binocular.

Zeiss, if you are watching, spend some effort in making the binocular better,
as in QC, collimation is necessary, packaging is just throwaway.

A case is part of the optics purchase, should be included, and is important.

Jerry

I'm watching, we are listening. Thanks for the feedback.

Mike Jensen
President

 

[ceasar]

I received an e-mail from Zeiss Friday saying my case had been shipped to me via Fedex. I had ordered it June 25 and was informed that the cases were on back order. They were expected to arrive in 1 month for shipment.

It is expected to be delivered sometime today (Tuesday). As promised.:t:

Bob

 

[NDhunter]

I'm watching, we are listening. Thanks for the feedback.

Mike Jensen
President

Mike:

Another welcome to the Birdforum. It is always good to hear from
company representatives.

Back when the new Victory HT was announced, we had a bit of fun
with the promotion of the advertising push of "designed by hunters for
hunters".

And it seems many birders are very pleased with the latest Zeiss model,
and as we would expect, they work well for everyone. |:d|

Good to see the effort, and your company has been very busy with the
rollout of several binocular models, as well as new scopes, etc.

Jerry

 

[dalat]

I thought that Zeiss would not sell these Terras in Europe (there was no word from Zeiss on these over here so far) but I was wrong, the first dealers start to offer them. In EU-blue: http://www.juelich-bonn.com/site/fernglas/zeiss/terra_ed/

 

[ceasar]

I received an e-mail from Zeiss Friday saying my case had been shipped to me via Fedex. I had ordered it June 25 and was informed that the cases were on back order. They were expected to arrive in 1 month for shipment.

It is expected to be delivered sometime today (Tuesday). As promised.:t:

Bob

The case, which Zeiss calls a pouch, arrived today at 2:20PM as promised.:t:

It is a smaller version of the black cordura like fabric case which came with my 7 x 42 Victory FL down to the Blue and White Zeiss logo on it's front.

It even has the same zippered compartment on the inside of the cover. It also came with a long strap 1 inch wide with a 1 and 1/2 inch by 4 inch sliding shoulder pad. This strap is long enough to slung over ones shoulder and across the chest so that the case will hang at the waist by the hip. It fits me that way and I am long waisted and wear 2x Tall shirts.

It's not fancy but it is a good utilitarian case.:t:

Bob

 

[Chris 37]

I thought that Zeiss would not sell these Terras in Europe (there was no word from Zeiss on these over here so far) but I was wrong, the first dealers start to offer them. In EU-blue: http://www.juelich-bonn.com/site/fernglas/zeiss/terra_ed/

Yes, it is all very strange!
As far as I know there was no advertising at all in Germany.
It is not even on the German-Zeiss-website yet. (http://sportsoptics.zeiss.com/hunting/de_de/fernglaeser.html)

The price is also much higher than in the US -
$595,-(8x42),
$660,-(10x42)

And then the warranty. They give only two years.
What? A ZEISS Binocular with 2 years of warranty?

The colour it comes in? Well - decide for yourself. (no black colour offered)

What´s going on???

Clearly, Zeiss doesn´t want to sell it here.
I´m much confused.

 

[qwp]

I thought that Zeiss would not sell these Terras in Europe (there was no word from Zeiss on these over here so far) but I was wrong, the first dealers start to offer them. In EU-blue: http://www.juelich-bonn.com/site/fernglas/zeiss/terra_ed/

Also advertise as 'available in August' here in GB

http://www.cliftoncameras.co.uk/Zeiss_Terra_ED_Binoculars

 

[typo]

Also advertise as 'available in August' here in GB

http://www.cliftoncameras.co.uk/Zeiss_Terra_ED_Binoculars

I guess there is a very good chance they will be on show at BirdFair.... but why Blue??

David

 

[eddy the eagle]

Don't forget that binoculars are used for many activities other than birdwatching....Eddy

 

[typo]

Pretty much all the specialist optics outlets here are birding, astronomy, or hunting. The rest are general outdoors, nautical camera or tourism shops mostly stocking small, light and cheap pairs. A blue Terra doesn't appear to fit into any of those categories.

Two retail outlets may not make the whole story, but it is blue only for Europe a lot of competing brands will breathe a sigh of relief.

David

 

[dalat]

Black for the US, blue for europe, orange for China, at least this will help to ID the Terra users in the field

 

[Troubador]

Black for the US, blue for europe, orange for China, at least this will help to ID the Terra users in the field

Is it a violation of my human rights to deny me access to a black Terra? Or an orange one for that matter?

Annabeth no doubt welcomes the arrival of bright colours into the drab world of bins but how bright do we wish to go?

The orange Terras were certainly high-visibility units and wouldn't look out of place in the hands of emergency services, civil engineering contractors. With the blue model its hard to tell from the pics just how vivid the colour is but it might be attractive to yachting folks. Might be a bit on the large and heavy side for canoeing though.

There have been some odd shades of green over the years but I have never seen what I would describe as a handsome dark green with a tone akin to British Racing Green. Brown could also be handsome in an autumn tone that hinted at the season of mists and mellow fruitfulness and stayed well away from hinting at anything, unsanitory............

Lee

 

[Troubador]

Brunton's Epoch MD bins come in a fetching shade of brown....

Lee

 

[Troubador]

I'm watching, we are listening. Thanks for the feedback.

Mike Jensen
President

I'm guessing that asking the buyer to apply for a case could be Zeiss's way of objectively measuring just how many folks really want a case.

Is that the (pun warning) case Mike?

Plenty of folks on here have said they never use the case. Plenty have said they do. Seems to make sense Zeiss would want to bottom this question.

Lee