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What started you birding. (2 Viewers)

What are the kids of today going to get nostalgic about, I wonder ? No black and white films, no steam trains, no trams, no brass draw-tube scopes (yes, I have used one !) - is progress really as good as the adverts say ?

Tony

Progress - a method of ensuring bad things happen more rapidly.
 
<What are the kids of today going to get nostalgic about, I wonder ?>

Err!! next question please??? lol
 
"What are the kids of today going to get nostalgic about, I wonder ? No black and white films, no steam trains, no trams, no brass draw-tube scopes (yes, I have used one !) - is progress really as good as the adverts say ?"
Well,I'm no kid,but I'm too young to remember most of the above as well(except black-and-white films:can think of a few made during my lifetime(Raging Bull,Schindler's List,Annie Hall etc.))
I get nostaglgic about:
double decker buses,halfpenny pieces,Tony Soper being TV's "bird man"(Oddie was still a Goodie then!),the Pope's visit to Ireland on TV(when I came back from school),Dr.Who(esp.Tom Baker's era),Transformer toys,Queen being around,Bowie being any good(pre 1983),Rubik's Cubes etc.
 
What got me started

Well, I dont think there was just one particular moment.

I can remember a realy surreal incident when I was about 8. I had been given a reall cheapo refractor for a xmas prezzy (though I thought it was the bees knees for a few days), dad had put the left over turkey carcass in the apple tree about 30yds from the house and boy did we get a lot of birds cos it was the winter of 63. We were constantly putting out the warm water. Dad still feeds the birds and has a tame blackbird and robin that come into the house!

Later in life i had a job that gave me a lot of time off in the day and lived near to Wicken Fen and took to getting up early and listening to the dawn chorus and watching the birds starting the day. Cant remember the year now but was either 81 or 82, I saw my first marsh harrier on the fen, and it stayed a few days, then it was joined by a female and we all got excited. Alas they didn't stay to breed that year, but they have bred their recently.

Dec 82 my daughter was born and that gave me a whole new interest. Now she is at uni and I am not working my interests have been rekindled and I am proud to say I am at last getting used to birdsong and can identify most 'commoners' on my patch by voice alone.

I suppose, above all, I'm just a tad enviouse of our feathered friends in that I cant just step into space and fly. The sight of 2 blackheaded gulls duelling or jackdaws mobbing a bird of prey can make one feel pretty immobile.
 
Wow, what a great way to spend a dull nightshift reading some fabulous tales !!

My story brings back a lot of great memories, but I always think that I was lucky growing up in the North East Of Scotland.

Cue Homer Simpson dream sequence...........
It was the summer of 80' when a warden from the RSPB reserve at Fowlshugh just south of Aberdeen came along to our school to give a talk - a brave man considering that the class was on our 3rd teacher of the year (the first left with 'stress' the second just disapeared) and we were only in primary 4 !!! You had to park your car 4 blocks away other wise it would spend the rest of its life on the BMX ramp !!
After the initial larking about at the back, something about this guy made me listen, he spoke the way we did, in a broad 'ehbirdeen' accent, and when you are a kid you can relate to that kind of thing....i.e 'he didnae soond like a ticher', but more amazingly (to me) he showed us slides of Puffins (I thought at the time they were penguins !!) and told us that these creatures were not to be found in Edinburgh zoo, but 20 miles down the road to Dundee !!!! Well that was it for me, I badgered my Dad for weeks on end to take me down there to see the penguins (!!) (much to my sisters distress) and on one fine sunny Sunday we set off in our inappropriate footwear and bright orange cagools and my Dixons own brand 8x30 binos which Granny had got me a few years previous, me smarting at the time as I had been promised the Action Man Helicopter !!.
As we parked the car I heard a sound (and smell) that still lives with me to this day, the sound of 1000's and 1000's of seabirds shreiking out, but we couldn't see anything........mum and sister remain in the car as we set off, starting to see a few birds over the clifftops, but where is the noise coming from ?? As we followed the cliffpath for a bit we round a corner and there it is.....................our jaws droped as we saw the sheer amount of penguins (later to be identified as Guillemots, Razorbills and Puffins).
3 hours later (it seemed like 10 minutes my mum and sis came round the corner only for the spectacle to be somewhat lost on them, however a Fulmar put that right my excreeting (spelling !) on her bright orange cagool, (she still won't buy RSPB raffle tickets to this day) and so the day was complete.
I never looked back from there, my next purchase being the Osborne book of Birds and my Dad sending off the £3 cheque for my YOC membership.
The local YOC group was run by a guy I think called Ian McLeod who was a giant of a guy, but my hero as a kid, I remember him pointing out Hen Harrier to me on that trip, not bad for my first ever raptor, the group had other superb leaders in it but I always am grateful to two guys Ian and Richard who took me under their wing (pardon the pun). Richard was about 6 years older than me and Ian about 4. Richard had passed on his knowledge to Ian over a few years and the Ian sort of took me on, and the system continued. I progressed on, making loads of friends in the group, eventually moving on to ringing and survey work with these guys till I discovered the other variety of Great British Bird.

I always look back and think about not only as a hobby, but as a life shaping experience, at 15 I went to my first ever Sand Martin ringing day, on that same day a friend at school died of solvent abuse, so if you hear me in these pages banging on about educating our kids about Natural History, it is because I always think I might have gone down that road myself, had these guys that took me birding when I was a kid through the YOC and other clubs not took an interest in me and shaped me into the person that I am today (I hope !!)

Just writing about this certainly has brought back some great memories !!


Paul

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Wonderful story Paul and a pleasure to read. How did you come to end up in Burton on Trent ?
You are centrally situated but is their much birding locally ?
 
Excellent Story Paul. I thoroughly enjoyed it and I certainly agree with your sentiments regarding educating our children..

I see you are a neighbour of mine as I live in Birmingham. You also have monkeyman not too far away either as he lives at Walsall.
I hope you enjoy participating in this forum and if you have any photos for us to see please put them into the forum.
 
Ahh, Burton on Trent eh ?
Well I have been in the Aviation world since leaving uni and after 5 years of living under the flightpath of Heathrow, decided to sell the house (still laughing at that !) and move to Branston (just outside Burton)
The good lady and I were both offered jobs up here about the same time, she's from this way, so everything just slotted into place..............except the birds !!
I miss my old patches (Fairoaks Airport and Chobham common) and am still looking for a new one, hence trawling the net for ideas, and found this site - hooked !
I will let everone know when I find the new patch, and have been impressed with Attenborough NR (Arctic Skua, Med Gull, Iceland Gull and smew in recent visits) so watch this space............................................


Paul

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Fit like, ma bonnie loon? Fit a grand tale ye tell't! Ah ken Branston verra weel! The missus an' me aft gang stravaigin alang the banks o' the Trent an' Mersey in summer!

And welcome to the forum! As John said, we're all neighbours here! We'll have to arrange a WM meet in the new year!

ps. My dad's from Buckie, hence the wee dash o' Doric!!

Al
 
New Years' Day, 1980

New Years' Day, 1980, I went for a walk with a friend on Hampstead Heath, London. He pointed out a few birds - I remember Nuthatch, and a Crow mobbing a Kestrel.

The next week, my girlfriend and I caught a tube to the end of the line and went for a long country walk. We gradually got more and more interested in birds and other natural history.

Ann and I are still together and still wasting far too much time and money on wildlife trips.
:cool:
 
For me it was rather simple. I was 13 years old and my grandmother and grandfather were birdwatchers. My grandfather passed away that year, and for some reason I was the one invited to go with my grandmother, probably because I already showed an interest. I adored her and loved being with her. We went almost everyplace imaginable in southern California birdwatching. That was 28 years ago. I lagged for a while (but always kept my eyes open), but when I got back into photography that has redeveloped my passion (obsession?) for birding.
 
I have enjoyed reading how people came to birding. It is always such interest that birders share their desires to connect with the wings of their worlds.
I have always been an outdoor person and tagged after my dad on many of his excursions.. he had me tying flies when I was 9 years old! One can never venture into the world of critters without noticing their intrinsic values no matter what the age. Dad whistled so wonderfully that he always had chats with the birds... this was NOT what gor me started.
I travelled extensively for a number of years and whenever I sat back and went through the frames I was amazed to see I had captured a bird almost everywhere I had been.. from fishing cormorants on the Yangtzee to Black swans on the Danube.. this was not what did it for me.. I still did not know I was going to be a BIRDER!
I have been chased by geese and honked at by ducks.. narrowly missed by gulls and spent time washing up oil spattered water birds.. and handling owls in a re-hab place . That still did not clue me in!
I met and got married four years ago and my now Husband asked me if I liked BIRDS!! I said yes and he then proceeded to say would I like to go birding.. sure with him well of course.. duh!!!That is the real start to my birding journey.
Our first Christmas together Lee bought me a scope and for the love of goodness I could not figure out what on earth to do with it .. after all it had only one darn eye piece! I said Duh remember?
Since that day I have brought home complete strangers I found out there.. we are a universal lot with our binos and our funny hats... the crick in our neck.. the tripods over our shoulders and the way we cannot hold a conversation that is simply one thread... it always with an eye to the sky and a"oh look a kestrel" or whatever.
We went from buying 20 pounds of feed to ordering a pallet and that folks is 25 bags of 22 kilos of Black Oiled Sunflower seed and dittoo on the cracked corn!From a jar of Peanut butter to a 22 kilo bucket of the stuff... and that does not in any way signify the raisins, cornmeal,or the lard to make suet...
We started out with three little cedar feeders.. and then Lee deigned and built a feeder that has a roof and bins to hold over 44 kilos of seed.We have a winter feeding station now that is also a photo studio of sorts for perching birds!
My M-i-L passed away two years ago and when she died she left all her bird books to me... and her photographs to Lee they are considerable and amazing...
Now I am a birder.. and I hosted an international bird gathering in my area two years ago and am planning a photo field trip for the next one... to include birds of our area and some wildlife and remote area visitation.
Thanks for the opportunity to be here and get in on the birding fun.. the stories are always a good part of this.
 
Well,I was interested in nature through most of my childhood(being one of those children that don't show any aptitude for sport and were a bit quiet-you can imagine what a soft target I was for bullies later on!),but wasn't what you would call a birder.
When I was about 15 I started to actively look at/for birds,learning which species was which and where I could find them.The initial learning stage probably lasted until some time in 1992,by which stage I plucked up the courage to go along to a meeting of the local branch of the IWC(now Birdwatch Ireland).
As you can imagine,I was very nervous,and I wish I could say that they made me feel welcome straight away,but what good is whitewashing events?Anyway,as I can be stubborn when I want to be,I kept going to the meetings and outings(and to be fair,I was a 17 year old,so probably was a bit annoying at the time!)
I seldom got to go birding outside of Cork city other than on the outings,so never even got to see such common species as Storm Petrels etc.,and only 1-2 birders gave me the time of day.
During 1997 I had a birding equivalent of a crisis of faith:my younger brother(who had been my only birding companion)lost interest a short while before,and things got on top of me a bit.(was and still am the only birder in my local area)
I started a new job that October,and after a few months there felt that I needed to make the most of my weekends,so I went out birding that Saturday,and decided to go to the trouble of getting a bus to Youghal to see Hen Harrier for the first time.
Imagine my surprise when the first harrier that I saw(ever!)was a wintering female Marsh(scarce even on migration),with a Hen on the same day.
This made my mind up:I was back where I belonged(and by now was in my early 20's).The only other problem(the way I was treated by my fellow birders)was solved in an unexpected way.
In Aug.98 I saw 2 dark herons at Ballycotton which I thought probably weren't Purple,but I rang the local wildlife ranger anyway.He suggested giving a birder living in Ballycotton a ring(no.in the book),and although I was sure that they were only melanistic Greys by now,I did.
The thing is that this birder didn't go to the meetings in Cork regularly due to work commitments,so he hadn't known me as an inexperienced youth.I have since been told by someone else that he spoke to others about me and that they couldn't believe he was talking about the person that they knew!
As a result,over the years I have come to be respected,and would count many of those who didn't have much time for me in the early years as good friends today(which is handy,as I was too shy to socialise in school or college).
Due to my own experiences,I would never look down my nose at less experienced/obsessive birders than myself.We're all interested in birds,and whether that means looking at the birds in one's garden,surveying breeding birds or travelling the length of the country for an "LBJ" is up to the individual in question.
Sorry for getting all serious on you all......
 
Harry / Gayle

Absolutely enjoyed reading both of your accounts of how you started birding.

Gayle

You have certainly come a long way in your birding life. I can't imagine the amounts of feed you get for your birds. They are extremely lucky critters living around you. I would love to see some of these photos you are talking about. they sound great.

Harry

I fully agree with your last statement about us all being birders no matter which path we follow in that hobby. Too many peope think that we should be pigeon holed (pardon the pun) into only being serious birders anything else is just playing at it, which of course is nonsense. I for one travel everywhere, even after maybe just one bird, but I certainly am no expert and have many flaws in my ID expertise. To be honest I love the thrill of the chase almost as much as I love birds. Does that make me a bad birder, I don't think so, just one that has different ideas on how I follow this Hobby of ours.
 
Hi John J,
Hobby with a capital H?Surely they're all safely in Africa now?;-)
The thrill of the chase is OK,but getting to see the bird that you're after is so much better!Hope to get the Snow Geese in Co.Wexford this Sun or Mon.Heard a report of a possible American Robin in Wales today:presume you would be interested if it's pinned down?
Harry
 
<Hobby with a capital H?Surely they're all safely in Africa now?;-)>

LOL


I saw the pager note on that American Robin as well. It was in the Llanelli area with Redwings only briefly but hasn't been reported since. If it was refound and stayed around then that would be a major twitch and one I might even attend.
 
John J... I have gone through my collection of bird photos and will post them on here for you to see the many similarities and the many differences, It wil be fun to do this.. I do so love your Chaffinch and your Long Tailed Tits. I have just now put up an imm. Bald Eagle and a fully mature eagle..
The feed part is amazing.. what we go through but we do it gladly and will continue to do so.. we also only take holidays where we are gone during slow feeder times here as it is near impossible to get other folks to come in to feed our birds!!!

Harry.. being a shy youth and a young just starting out birder can be frightening in some cases.. we had the wonderful opportunity to meet an 11 year boy who came out to observe our hummingbirds this past summer and he was plainly not used to having to socialise as well as bird. He will be successful and I see that you are too. Birders with a heart .. they are my personal favourites.They are a wealth of info and that is how I learned..thank you for your recounting of your start.
 
I must say I really was enthralled with your account Paul (Munro). I was moved especially by your account of the sea birds coming in to view - I still get that amazing buzz now on seeing birds - and by the poingnant (spelling???) remark about a school friend dying the day you went ringing. If only we could get kids into the real world from birth I am sure delinquency would almost disappear.
 
I blame Bill Oddie for getting me started. I watched some of his birding programs on the TV. It was his way of getting over to the public that any one who wants to can take up birding. I thought that only the Elite take up birding. But when l started going around birding l found how friendly and helpful other birders can be. I then joined my bird watching club, when l managed to go on trips with them they did their best to make sure that any new member could get to see and identify the birds.
Bye for now Mosie
 
OOOOOOooh yes, even though I was already started, so to speak, I rememember well being in the Tower hide at Wicken when a bat headed straight at us and the hobby was about 6 inches behind, the bat went through the hide and the hobby, moustache and all went over. I guess the the bat was smarter on that occasion.

Mike
 
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