Which Crossbill ? (north of Sweden) (2 Viewers)

[hannu]

First definately Parrot, second toobarred ;-)

see:
http://www.dickforsman.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=49&Itemid=0

 

[tarzzz]

WOW.. Hannu stirs up the pot uhhh?

My guess is... Common Crossbill on ALL pictures (maybe some 2-barred).

//Ben

 

[hannu]

I meaned that all birds in the first link (#1) are Parrot Crossbills and #13 toobarred ;-)
The bill does not look so long as it should be in Common,
and that fine bar in the Parrot's greater coverts (#1) possibly refers to 1cy bird!
e.g. http://www.tarsiger.com/images/SL/loxpyt_n_sund_060104_1.jpg,
which has smaller one (2cy?)....

 

[hannu]

E.g. as Forsman says, in Common Crossbill the outline of the lower mandible is much more gently curved. Also the Parrot's size of the bill is smaller in juvenile birds than adults.

 

[tarzzz]

ok.. what do Forsman say about my pics then ???

I'll take poison for Common !!


//Ben

 

[hannu]

Ben, why you believe that your bird(s) is Common?

 

[griffin]

Ben, your first bird is Parrot as I said earlier. Trust me, I have seen hundreds. However, if it were in Scotland, well ..............!

However, I am more interested that your TB xbill is apparently scoffing Scots Pine. I would really like to know if he was prising them open as this is pretty significant. Was it in a Scots Pine only forest or are there spruce trees nearby ? I suspect not.

Would also still like to see a bill of the TB as you can't see it in the photo.


Linz